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Agent Z182
06/22/15, 02:42 PM
This is something that occured to me a while in regards to Forever Red. I don't know if this was on purpose by the writers, but the pairings we see in the episode make more sense when you take into account each Red Ranger's history:
Jason and Cole - The first and current Red Ranger respectively. And while it's a controversial moment, Cole destroying Serpentera could be considered a sort of 'passing-the-torch' moment from Jason as he succeeds where the first Red Ranger failed.

Tommy and Wes - Both have been paired with their teams respective Pink Rangers (though only Tommy became an official couple with Kim and later Kat, whereas Wes and Jen settled unresolved sexual tension.

T.J and Leo - The two had worked together previously in the Lost Galaxy/In Space team up.

Eric and Aurico - Two Red Rangers who were never the leaders of their respective teams. Also both their teams were led by females.

Carter and Andros - Both had teams with Silver Rangers. Also had heroic careers before their respective teams were formed (Carter was fire fighter and Andros served as one of Zordon's many warriors and was a Red Ranger already before meeting the Turbo Rangers).

Oceanblue
06/22/15, 02:43 PM
Regardless of whether or not there was any intention behind it, you can clearly look into the pairings and get a lot out of them. =) The Eric/Aurico thing completely slipped my mind! Even their names sound similar.

For T.J. and Leo, I thought it was more about the fact that they both used swords (I think T.J. actually used two in that scene). Similarly, I figured Carter and Andros were paired up for their laser fight, since Carter seemed proficient at it in Lightspeed Rescue and I feel like Andros used his laser more than previous Rangers did (but I'm kinda grasping at straws there).

MattEmily
06/22/15, 03:24 PM
I think part of the reason of why they opted for Eric and Aurico to team up with one another is because of how ironic such a pairing would be especially since Eric was always so against anyone that didn't look like a human.

Rangermanuel
06/22/15, 09:32 PM
I never thought of these pairings but you do posses a point. First of all Jen/Wes are one of my favorite ranger pairings alongside Tommy/Kimberly. It seemed appropriate for Jason and Cole to be paired because Jason was the first red ranger and Cole being the new addition to the family. It was great for TJ and Leo to be paired again but I prefer TJ as the Blue Space Ranger (forgive me Justin). Carter and Andros seemed appropriate because of government connections with each other and both protected the Earth in two different cities where the PR legacy unfolded Andros service ended one era in PR history and Carter began another. Eric and Aurico I have no opinion but they are not official red rangers

Jen's Revenge
06/22/15, 09:58 PM
It was cool seeing Wes and Eric a third time. It was an extra treat. Also they basically made Eric an official Red by having him part of the team up. Since it was Red Ranger only.

Green Alien Ranger
06/22/15, 09:59 PM
I think part of the reason of why they opted for Eric and Aurico to team up with one another is because of how ironic such a pairing would be especially since Eric was always so against anyone that didn't look like a human.

Thats a good point. I always thought it was a nice touch adding Aurico to the team. Nice of them to think to include the Alien Rangers.

Captain Codfish
06/22/15, 10:01 PM
Its kinda interesting how Jason inferred that he meant Wes and Eric before off screen. I love the layers of subtext there. Especially the fued between Tommy and Jason that was alluded to and aparently settled. You could diffinitly see the Mentor/Rookie relationship between Jason and Cole.

Rangermanuel
06/22/15, 10:41 PM
^I don't know what you mean by inferred before off screen. Meanwhile, I do get what you mean since ASJ and JDF feuded off screen because of their popularity with the fans plus there was one idea that was cut that the former teammates grew apart after the Turbo movie incident which behind the scenes was all Austin's idea. I do agree what you said about him and Cole. Cole truly has proven himself worthy to shine Jason's boots

MattEmily
06/22/15, 11:13 PM
I never thought of these pairings but you do posses a point. First of all Jen/Wes are one of my favorite ranger pairings alongside Tommy/Kimberly. It seemed appropriate for Jason and Cole to be paired because Jason was the first red ranger and Cole being the new addition to the family. It was great for TJ and Leo to be paired again but I prefer TJ as the Blue Space Ranger (forgive me Justin). Carter and Andros seemed appropriate because of government connections with each other and both protected the Earth in two different cities where the PR legacy unfolded Andros service ended one era in PR history and Carter began another. Eric and Aurico I have no opinion but they are not official red rangers

I agree with Eric not being an official Red Ranger but Aurico certainly is he was the Red Aquitar Ranger also known as the Red Alien Ranger.

Now in the case of Jason knowing Wes and Eric he made a comment like "I recognize some of you more than others" and he mentioned the beginning of the comment basically in front of Wes and Eric implying that the 3 of them have met before.

Rangermanuel
06/22/15, 11:31 PM
Well it should have been explained more how he knows some of the red rangers that succeeded himself and Tommy. About Eric, he was put in the show in the first place because Steve Cardenas was unavailable to do the show because of a change of addresses.

Captain Codfish
06/23/15, 07:18 AM
Actually, its been said that Amit always intended for Eric to be part of the team up. Rocky was going to have a cameo as Tommy's butler.

Rangermanuel
06/23/15, 11:06 AM
^I find that very hard to believe

VR Master
06/23/15, 11:21 AM
There was no real way to use Rocky as Red. Since Jason and Rocky had the same costumes.

Sledge's Bounty
06/23/15, 11:27 AM
I never understood why Eric was in the team up in the first place. He wasn't a Real Ranger. And Carter said they were only looking for Red Rangers in a deleted scene where Max wanted to come.

Rangermanuel
06/23/15, 11:30 AM
You have a point VR Master but Rocky would have been given back his red Ninjetti Ranger and I do remember finding the deleted script online saying Max wanted to come unaware it was strictly red ranger business.

Mega Mission
06/23/15, 11:32 AM
It would have been strange having them use the Ninja Suit since the Rangers never fought real monsters or generals with them for long. But I guess there are ways around this.

PRangerX
06/23/15, 11:40 AM
You have a point VR Master but Rocky would have been given back his red Ninjetti Ranger and I do remember finding the deleted script online saying Max wanted to come unaware it was strictly red ranger business.

Yeah, there was a clip of the deleted scene too, provided by MR Aftershock.

BTW it was said by Amit's friends that he did want Eric in the team up all along.

Rangermanuel
06/23/15, 11:45 AM
That does seem fair enough after all Eric is one of my favorite extra rangers

MattEmily
06/01/17, 08:27 PM
Actually, its been said that Amit always intended for Eric to be part of the team up. Rocky was going to have a cameo as Tommy's butler.

that's correct as weird as it might be. Rocky was never going to take part in the battle if Jason was there in fact Rocky would've only taken part in the battle if Austin wasn't able to come back as Jason.

I never understood why Eric was in the team up in the first place. He wasn't a Real Ranger. And Carter said they were only looking for Red Rangers in a deleted scene where Max wanted to come.

it's because they wanted to have 10 Rangers to represent the 10 seasons. Jason represented season one, they had no one to represent Season 2 since they had used the same suits but every other season they had a Red Ranger that they could try to get which is why they had wanted with going for the Quantum Ranger as a Red Ranger.

Quantum Hunter
06/05/17, 12:48 PM
I think Eric is basically a Red Ranger without his own team. Biolabs would have reverse engineered the powers to make their own Quantum Team. Its likewise that Time Force would have done this themselves if the morpher wasn't lost in time.

Jen's Revenge
06/05/17, 12:50 PM
I think the other TF Powers were made to pair with Quantum. Time Force just had to create a new Red once the powers were lost.

Blue Ranger Gone Bad
06/05/17, 12:52 PM
Well having two Red Rangers from MMPR or only nine Rangers would have been odd. So I can't fault them for using Eric.

MattEmily
06/05/17, 08:14 PM
Well having two Red Rangers from MMPR or only nine Rangers would have been odd. So I can't fault them for using Eric.

exactly just like it'd be odd if we did a 25th anniversary "Forever Red" since it'd be just as odd because of the 2nd season not having a separate suit and not to mention Dino Charge and Ninja Steel wouldn't have separate Red Rangers either so the odds of having 25 Red Rangers at this point in time would be very slim but let's see shall we?


Jason - Red Mighty Morphin Power Ranger
Aurico - Red Alien Ranger
Tommy - Zeo Ranger V/5, Red
T.J - Red Turbo Ranger
Andros - Red Space Ranger
Leo - Red Galaxy Ranger
Carter - Red Lightspeed Ranger
Wes - Red Time Force Ranger
Eric - Quantum Ranger
Cole - Red Lion Ranger (Wild Force)
Shane - Red Wind Ranger (Ninja Storm)
Hunter - Crimson Thunder Ranger (Ninja Storm)
Conner - Red Tyranno Ranger (Dino Thunder)
Jack/Sky/Bridge - Red S.P.D. Ranger
Nick - Red Mystic Ranger
Leanbow - Wolf Warrior
Mack - Red Overdrive Ranger
Casey - Red Ranger (Jungle Fury)
Scott - Ranger Red (RPM)
Jayden - Red Samurai Ranger
Lauren - Red Samurai Ranger
Troy - Megaforce/Super Megaforce
Tyler - Red Ranger (Dino Charge)
Brody - Red Ranger (Ninja Steel)

Turbo Black
06/10/17, 09:43 PM
I'm glad they brought TJ back as Turbo Red. I hated when he got demoted to Blue.

Sentai Master
06/10/17, 11:48 PM
Eric and Wes were clearly two Reds.

Decepticon
06/11/17, 08:57 AM
This is something that occured to me a while in regards to Forever Red. I don't know if this was on purpose by the writers, but the pairings we see in the episode make more sense when you take into account each Red Ranger's history:
Jason and Cole - The first and current Red Ranger respectively. And while it's a controversial moment, Cole destroying Serpentera could be considered a sort of 'passing-the-torch' moment from Jason as he succeeds where the first Red Ranger failed.

Tommy and Wes - Both have been paired with their teams respective Pink Rangers (though only Tommy became an official couple with Kim and later Kat, whereas Wes and Jen settled unresolved sexual tension.

T.J and Leo - The two had worked together previously in the Lost Galaxy/In Space team up.

Eric and Aurico - Two Red Rangers who were never the leaders of their respective teams. Also both their teams were led by females.

Carter and Andros - Both had teams with Silver Rangers. Also had heroic careers before their respective teams were formed (Carter was fire fighter and Andros served as one of Zordon's many warriors and was a Red Ranger already before meeting the Turbo Rangers).

Good catch. That makes a lot of sense. Even if Carter and Andros feels like a stretch.