Sailor Moon Crystal Episode 10 Discussion

[PRangerX]

So we get to see them finally return to the moon. A bit different than actually seeing them relive it in the anime. But still good to see. Of course things were more like the manga backstory. So we know the people of earth were brainwashed and that history was restarted once Serenity sealed Matilla. Also the sword from the manga comes into play here.

Its interesting how they are doing the Sailor Gaurdian / General love story that the manga backstory only aluded to in one picture. It makes sense that they kept the generals alive this long. I was surprised we didnt get more of Kunzite doubting the memories. I almost expected the guardians to have to kill their former lovers. Will be interesting to see where this goes.

I have to say it was cool seeing Usagi kick ass and save the day. Pretty epic having her go to space to heal the planet. The seqence in the beginning of the Guardians traveling through space was cool too.

There have been a lot of complaints about character development for the other guardians. But we got a lot of that in the beginning, as well as with the Gaurdian/ General love story.

Its gonna be interesting to see evil Endyimon interact with Usagi. I am sure we will get more of Beryl's backstory too.

[shellysunfish]

It was ok. I thought 8 and 9 were stronger episodes.
The lack of blood, and any real fighting still bugs me.
Toning down violence is one thing, but taking it away
completely is another. They just brushed over the tragic
Moon kingdom story very quickly, with little emotion in it.
An emotional let down comparing that episode 9 made me
cry. Also how emotionally involved I was in the 90's anime
(and manga) version of the Moon kingdom story. The Moon
Pride music video was so epic, it made me look forward to
this episode. Too bad this episode didn't live up to it's potential.

[StarHealerTornado]

Loved the episode so much! Watched in on CR since Viz/Hulu were flops and didn't upload it when they were supposed to. But yay to watching a new SMC episode with better subtitles for the first time around!

This episode had much better artwork than Act 9 IMO. I loved the bit of backstory we saw for the Four Kings (SO excited to see them with colors actually matching their stones, except for Kunzite, which is something I've always wanted)! Too bad it was so short. If they'd been given more episodes like they wanted to do, I imagine we would have gotten something more detailed, but oh well.

Also! I loved seeing the girls in their outfits from the opening. That was pretty cool.

[SmallLadySerenity]

I...um....thought it was okay?

*sighs*

I have to agree here. This Act was rather....unimpressive, to me. I had a box of tissues ready to go, and I was fully and completely expecting this big, emotional, incredibly tragic backstory to utterly wreck me and rip my heart out of my chest.

I was anticipating my reaction to be similar to how I reacted to Act 9, but worse: Act 9 had me in tears the entire episode. I was fully expecting to have my heart torn out of my body and stomped on.

That didn't happen. All I got was this....in 5 minutes:

Queen Serenity: "Hey guys, I love and miss you all, kissy kissy!! But I'm kinda dead now, but my spirit was uploaded to our computer system, and here's what happened: you fell in love, our kingdom was destroyed, Earth was destroyed, Endymion died, and oh yeah, by the way, you committed suicide. LOL. Toodles!"

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Suffice it to say, with how incredibly quickly it was brushed over, it sort of left my mouth hanging open in shock.

This was supposed to be my incredibly, super-tragic backstory, dammit. That ONE little scene of Princess Serenity squeeing "Oh, you guys! Stop!" and giggling with them was not my idea of tragic or heart-wrenching.

I needed a hell of a lot more then: "Hey, y'all, here's what happened, and oh yeah, you committed suicide. LOL."

I'm a little pissed off because they made it a hell of a lot more basic then it should have been. Not glossed over like that. That's seriously all I can think about, is Queen Serenity, going: "LOL".

Meeting her mother was supposed to have been emotional, dammit.

I know they followed the manga pretty well exactly, except for the bit where they added in the 4 Generals/Soldier pairings, which was sweet, but it wasn't my tragic, gut-wrenching backstory.

In the manga, it was pretty well implied that Sailor Moon/Serenity was remembering her final days exactly, just as Queen Serenity was telling the story. We were supposed to go into her memories and see exactly what happened, in full, glorious, bloody detail.

I was expecting a few scenes from the Moon Pride video.

I'm really, really, really disappointed about the backstory. Like soul-crushingly disappointed.

I still enjoyed the episode and still liked it, but I was ready to cry and wail and sob. I WANTED to cry and wail and sob and I didn't get anywhere near that.

A decent episode, but nowhere near as amazing as it could have been.

*sighs* It is what it is, I suppose.

And for the record, I too, had hoped to see the "Rabbit on the Moon" joke Makoto made.

*sighs again*

Meh.

[SailorStarTornado]

See now why an act-for-act adaptation wasn't a good idea?

[redchina]

came into this episode with zero expectations, and left fairly satisfied. Episode 10 is a little more subtle than the previous emotional episode 9, but it still had some high marks:

* Ad-hoc transformation scene. So great that they are not wasting our time with stock footage. Also, the girls were wearing the clothes from the opening credits.
* We got to interact with Usagi's family once more. Almost forgot about them!
* Jupiter pumping her fists, and trying to pull the stone sword. And then Venus being the one who succeeds!
* It's finally revealed why all the Generals were kept alive. Looks like it was so they could introduce the Senshi x Generals love backstory.
* Awesome fight scene between Senshi and the Generals. Again, loved how they didn't use stock footage, like they did in the 90's anime.

It actually looks like it will be the next episode that will turn up the emotional impact agai

[Saturius]

Very flat episode. Just didn't hit the emotional notes that I was hoping for. Everything happened very quickly too. The mini fight scene was kinda cool as they made it very dynamic, but it was WAAYYY too short. And Sailor Planet Attack was hugely disappointing. I really hope the creators really bring it for the final few episodes. This was definitely a stumble after the last few episodes. And I watched this on Hulu and man were the subs awful. I mean really awful. They had 3 weeks to do this and they made the subs worse than they've ever been. Just so many errors. On the plus side, the animation was really really good though.

[SakuyamonX]

Flat is exactly the word I'd describe Sailor Moon Crystal. The scene where the Senshi all realized they were in love with the Shitennou was painfully bad. Even with the little hints they threw previously in the show, it still felt like it came out of nowhere, and it just barely made any sense? I mean, was it just love at first sight?? I don't know, I'm on the fence with the whole Shitennou x Senshi plot in general, but I can't imagine anyone being pleased with how it was handled. :dead: The fact that the show truly believed that the only important characterization for the senshi are their love interests is also kind of insulting.

The one good part was Silver Millennium!Rei scaring Usagi. I was like "OMG! She showed personality." I'm actually kind of sad how disappointed I'm in this series. I was so into it too until the past few episodes. Episode 9 was such an improvement... I don't know guys. Not liking Sailor Moon is such a weird thing. :blue:

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[Kon]

Well, this episode left me mixed feelings.

I liked the interaction of the Tsukino family and some scenes of Queen Sereniy (especially when she said goodbye to Usagi). I also liked the battle scenes (although these were short).

I haven't problem with the relationship between the Senshis and Shittenou, but I didN't like the development of their romance in this episode. I didn't like the sailors have fallen in love at the same time.


PS: They jumped very quickly the suicide scene of Princess Serenity, right?

[ShineAquaIllusion]

I kind of dislike how Rei, who said she didn't trust men, was one of the first to jump on board the fact that she used to be in love with Jadeite. Felt artificial to me. The rest of the episode seemed fine, although the Generals x Guardians pairing introduction was kind of rushed. They're probably setting up for this big, tragic ending where everyone dies and only the girls and Mamochan come back.

[SolidTitania]

Well, I thought this ep was the best!! I loved every single bit including the short scene with usagi's family and rei's badass attitude in the princess flashback part. The reunion with Queen, it was so cute and teary. The animation was spectacular and gorgeous backgrounds of the silver millennium and earth garden. Really dope moon healing esc attack, I replayed many times. Good pacing!!!

[SmallLadySerenity]

I'm not saying I hated the episode or anything. I'm re-watching it now and finding elements I didn't notice the first time around.

I loved how Queen Serenity continuously refers to Sailor Moon specifically as 'Serenity'. That actually did make me tear up a little. No matter what form Usagi takes, or how she looks, or if she changes in between reincarnations....

She will always be 'Serenity' to her. She is still her precious baby girl after all these millions of years.

I also really enjoyed how they were in their adorable outfits from the opening sequence.

Holy Moon Sword!!!!!! AAAGH!! Yes!!!!

Loved the sequence where Mars has the "LOOK" on her face when they discover Serenity sneaking back into the palace.

Love the fact they expounded a little bit on the fact that Jadeite/Nephrite/Zoisite & Kunzite were all actually Endymion's guardians in the past.

Love the fact that they actually SAY that the Earth Kingdom and Silver Millennium were LITERALLY so far back in existence that after the kingdoms both fell, Earth literally had to begin its cycle of development all over again from complete scratch. (I.e. All this happened way before even dinosaurs existed, before even prehistory.)

[Venus Love Whip]

This episode is wonderful... VERY OK!... :keke: :keke: :keke: Every parts of it the transforms, the reunion on the Moon, but the fight, Venus stopped them from fighting... The senshis didn't use all of their strength, I see they didn't :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: I want to see Venus use Crescent Beam just for once... :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: But I feel strange seeing other senshis in love with the Shitennou (as I remember Venus is the only one who in love with Kunzite, and he seems didn't care) but they were controlled by Beryl, SO CRUEL, BERYL! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: And Sailor Planet Attack wasn't a rainbow attack (combined 4 colors) as I imagined...but only blue, why not silver or white...? And it is not enough to purify or destroy the Shitennou... :sadeyes: :sadeyes: :sadeyes: :sadeyes: However, the loveing scene wasn't very long and and I'm so sad when see the senshis hold back and can't fight the one they love, WOAAAAAA! They was more cruel in the manga....

[1dbad]

Personally I enjoyed this episode. There was a lot of audio/color visual components to the manga chapter, so it was nice to be able to see and hear them in the actual episode. I also like what they did with the Four Kings. (minus the pairings) My biggest complaint (aside from missing a bit from the manga/not being as emotional as expected) would be how overpowered Sailor Moon is in this adaptation. It's an issue from the manga too, but being able to fly to outer space to do Moon Healing Escalation was...wow.

[Eric]

Cons:

This episode wasn't as emotional and memorable as its 90's counterpart. The episode is certainly more tragic (it showed Princess Serenity stabbing herself), but it felt very dry. I believe this is because the score of the the 90's anime is excellent, whereas the score of Crystal is very bland and generic. In other words, the tragic scenes were there, but the scenes lacked the proper music and emotion.

Pros:
Senshi x Shitennou pairings.
Shitennou remembering their memories.
The moon sword.
Best battle scene I have seen in Crystal to date.

Oh and... now if the Shitennou either die or turn to stone, it'll be so sad. :ohdear:

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[Sailor Pooh]

I really loved this episode. I thought they had to rush certain things because they had to fit all of act MOON in 26 some-odd minutes. I thought Venus was the standout among the senshi and this is coming from someone whose favorite is Moon. They are definitely writing her as leader of the inners and that is nice for a change. I did hope somehow we would see the sword in action, but damn them lifting it all out together was epic.

I loved seeing Shitennou and senshi stand off and you can already see their powers combined are becoming more powerful.
And Moon going on with her bad self, Usagi is becoming a true leader healing the world and not crying all the time. She is growing up, as her parents were saying. Although that line was kind of funny considering it was said when she was fighting with Shingo over the video game. And I would hardly call Usagi spoiled considering her mom kicked her out of the house for getting bad grades :P

This episode does deserve a re-watch but overall there were so many things to enjoy about it.

[PrimoPiccolo]

You can tell how fast this show moves. Under normal anime rules, we'd have easily spent the whole episode just traveling to The Moon. This time, step in a fountain and boom. Then we'd have sent a second episode purely on backstory, where here we got everything we needed to know and more.

The Four Heavenly Kings also found out their past, and we force a battle that actually lasts longer than two moves. I'm still shipping Nephrite with Naru, but whatcha gonna do... And Sailor Planet attack? Really? I've seen better.


I found Luna's front paws in that console scene awkwar

[ranger_scout]

I absolutely loved the episode. What a twist that Zoisite, Kunzite, Jadeite, and Nephrite were knights of Prince Endymion's kingdom on Earth and that the Sailor guardians were in love with them. The history of the Moon Kingdom and Princess Serenity and Endymion's original deaths were fascinating as well. It's so great to have Sailor Moon back in my life.
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[MattEmily]

I've been having volume problems with my computer so it took me awhile to get through this episode since I still kept on having issues with my volume but anyway besides that... I thought the episode was good.

I especially like the twist that the Sailor Soldiers are in love with the 4 Kings. I wonder which one fell in love with each King?

[PRangerX]

Most likely

Jedite:Mars

Nephrite: Jupiter

Zoycite: Mercury

Kunzite: Venus

[MattEmily]

I personally can see Minako and Kunzite since he's the only one among the four that she typically mentions.