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Captain Codfish 11/17/16 08:21 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
The idea of the old Rangers being assimilated sounds far fetched to me. I don't see them going that route and it was just a little easter egg to use former Ranger actors for VAs.

Since the Zeo Powers were never lost and abandoned than its not hard to understand how Tommy could get them back. We just don't know the real reason why the Zeo Rangers switched to Turbo. The powers had to be in storage all the time or used for something else.

Goldar's Revenge 11/17/16 09:02 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
There was no time to tell the whole backstory of FR in the episode itself. Given the fact the Zeo Powers were never officially lost, it doesn't take much for Tommy to get the powers back.

Chaos Ranger 11/18/16 11:36 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
This should have been explained a lot better. I'm sorry , but the Zeo Crystal was clearly not a viable power source once Turbo started. Otherwise the Rangers still would have used it. Tommy should not have had Zeo Powers. And it got more confusing once Tommy didn't have it in DinoThunder .

RJ Wolf Ranger 11/18/16 11:38 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
We never saw the Zeo Crystal depowered or destroyed. The Rangers switched to the Turbo Powers since they were better to chase Divatox with. Going back to the Zeo Powers wasn't N option at the time. This wasn't an issue once Tommy passed his powers to TJ. I would not doubt that Tomny regained his Zeo Powers to battle the UAE on Eltar.

Smarty Pants Rose 11/19/16 08:04 AM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
The Zeo Crystal was too powerful to totally give up on. I am sure Zordon put it in storage. As to why they just switched to the Turbo powers? Its really hard to say because it makes little sense. Even if the Turbo Powers were better for stopping Divatox's quest for Maligore....It made no sense not to go back to the more powerful Zeo Powers.

Galaxy Forever 11/19/16 11:37 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
I wonder what was more powerful....The Zeo Crystal or Quasar Sabers?

Lord Leo 11/19/16 11:37 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Probably the Quasar Sabers.

Zeo Power 11/19/16 11:38 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
The Zeo Crystal, it was all powerful.

MMPR Supreme 11/20/16 06:15 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
It was a slap in the face that they didn't have Tommy come back as the Green Ranger. At least they did so in Super Megaforce.

Maligore 11/20/16 06:17 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Thats because they were too cheap to bring the whole surviving MMPR cast back.

Massive Ego 11/20/16 06:18 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Because it was cheap to bring back all the former Red Rangers and shoot original footage.

Maligore 11/20/16 06:19 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Would have cost more to get the originals back.

Knight Wolf 11/21/16 08:47 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
I think it just happened off screen. We have seen all sorts of things happened on PR. Tommy got his powers back before as Green Ranger. And than got totally new ones as White. Its not hard to think that there was someway of getting the Zeo Powers back, if they were even gone in the first place. There was several years between Turbo and Wild Force.

Mystic Ranger 11/21/16 10:00 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Did "Scorpion Rain" have something in it about why the abandoned their Zeo Powers?

Goldar's Revenge 11/21/16 10:01 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
No, Zeo Zord 5 was apparently damaged though. There was said to be something about the Zeo Powers in an early draft of the Turbo Movie script. But it didn't make stay in the script.

Massive Ego 11/21/16 10:04 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Fan Films don't count anyway. Too bad they didn't leave the explanation in the final draft of the movie. That would have count of course.

Sentai Master 11/28/16 10:19 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger Master (Post 60137)
The Turbo Powers were a reboot of the Turbo Powers. But the Crystal was reassembled and the connection made with the Rangers without the sub crystals needed in the morphers. It was just another version of the Zeo Powers, it was just called Turbo because of the Zords.

Zordon took the crystal with him to Eltar where it still powered both the Turbo and Robot Rangers. Once Eltar fell the Crystal was lost, resulting in the power loss of the Rangers. Mountain Blaster and Lightening Cruiser both became the new source for Justin and TJ's powers.

The Zeo Crystal was recovered by Tommy to allow him to be Zeo Red once again. After FR the Zeo Crystal was needed elsewhere so Tommy doesn't have it by DinoThunder.


The Turbo Powers were separate. We just don't know why the switch to Turbo was made. They seemed to need the Turbo Powers to go after Divatox. It could be that they couldn't easily switch back after the Turbo Movie.

Quasar Saber 11/28/16 10:23 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Actually it makes a lot of sense when you think about it. The Turbo Powers were needed because of the keys they needed to get into the Nemesis Triangle. The keys were a major part of the Turbo Powers. And probably wouldn't be compatible with the Zeo Powers.

Another good reason is that Zordon still had the Zeo Powers if anything happened to the Turbo Team or someone attacked Earth while the Rangers were still gone. Zordon obviously took the Zeo Crystal with him to Eltar. Most likely for new Zeo Rangers to defend another planet. My guess is Inquria. As part of the deal to bring Dimitria to Earth.

Powermaster 05/04/20 05:24 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
We never really saw on screen what happened to the Zeo Powers. So its not that surprising that Tommy still had access to him in Forever Red.

Jen's Revenge 05/11/20 07:31 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Its happened so much in the team ups,that powers suddenly returning doesn't seem like a big deal anymore.

MMPR Forever 05/11/20 07:34 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Tommy should have had his Green or White Ranger Powers.

A Gia To Remember 05/12/20 02:13 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
It was odd how they never address the Zeo Powers in Turbo and they suddenly show up in FR.

Quantum Blue 05/12/20 05:55 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
There had to be an off screen reason that there's lost the Zeo Powers. Or discarded them ( which is probably a more accurate term in this case. )

Goldar's Revenge 05/16/20 09:51 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
The Zeo Powers were never lost before the team up...Just discontinued for whatever reason. Tommy did lose the Zeo Powers sometime after "Forever Red".

thegreenranger2020 05/19/20 10:57 AM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Well, according to Wikiranger.com, "Amit Bhaumik says, "My memory is a little fuzzy on the details, but the short of it is Tommy, between leaving in Turbo and reappearing in Forever Red, goes to Zordon's homeworld of Eltar around Lost Galaxy/Lightspeed Rescue timewise. There he finds the remains of Alpha 5 and takes him to be rebuilt as Alpha 7 (the one you saw in Forever Red). He also uncovers the source of Zordon's powers and restores the Red Zeo Crystal giving him his Zeo powers back. Some time around then he restores Jason's power coin."

There's your answer.

Quantum Blue 05/19/20 02:47 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thegreenranger2020 (Post 77245)
Well, according to Wikiranger.com, "Amit Bhaumik says, "My memory is a little fuzzy on the details, but the short of it is Tommy, between leaving in Turbo and reappearing in Forever Red, goes to Zordon's homeworld of Eltar around Lost Galaxy/Lightspeed Rescue timewise. There he finds the remains of Alpha 5 and takes him to be rebuilt as Alpha 7 (the one you saw in Forever Red). He also uncovers the source of Zordon's powers and restores the Red Zeo Crystal giving him his Zeo powers back. Some time around then he restores Jason's power coin."

There's your answer.

That makes sense.

White Tiger Fan 05/19/20 02:48 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Of course Amit is the best when it comes to continuity.

Omega Black 05/19/20 07:07 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
I always assumed Tommy spent his post Turbo days finding a way to restore old powers and just keeping tabs on all the active Rangers. Especially once he got word or the Machine General's plans. Andros and Tommy were on to them long before FR. It was just a matter of win. Andros was the one in charge of keeping an eye out.

Pink Alien Ranger 05/19/20 08:15 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
I wondered this myself. Best guess is that Tommy just got ahold of the Zeo Crystal again.

Ranger Black 05/19/20 08:31 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
The Zeo Powers were never lost. Tommy just had to retrieve them, wherever they were stored.

Noble Leo 05/20/20 12:28 AM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
I don't know I think Zordon at least used the Zeo Powers to create Turbo. Tommy shouldn't have been able to use the powers.

Trakeena's Revenge 05/20/20 12:38 AM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Zordon probably took it to Eltar with him. Andros helped Tommy get it back sometime after Space.

Tommy's Dragonzord 05/21/20 10:17 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
The powers were just out away for safe keeping. For some reason the Turbo Rangers had no access to them after the Power Chamber was destroyed.

MattEmily 05/21/20 11:25 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo Guy (Post 60131)
I thought the Zeo Powers became the Turbo Powers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Mutiny (Post 60132)
That was debunked a long time ago. And isn't possible since TJ was in FR too. The Zeo Powers were just discontinued until FR.

Precisely there is no truth to Zeo and Turbo being linked no matter what any person or creature pulls out of their rear

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger Master (Post 60137)
The Turbo Powers were a reboot of the Turbo Powers. But the Crystal was reassembled and the connection made with the Rangers without the sub crystals needed in the morphers. It was just another version of the Zeo Powers, it was just called Turbo because of the Zords.

Zordon took the crystal with him to Eltar where it still powered both the Turbo and Robot Rangers. Once Eltar fell the Crystal was lost, resulting in the power loss of the Rangers. Mountain Blaster and Lightening Cruiser both became the new source for Justin and TJ's powers.

The Zeo Crystal was recovered by Tommy to allow him to be Zeo Red once again. After FR the Zeo Crystal was needed elsewhere so Tommy doesn't have it by DinoThunder.

Exactly what I mean if you can’t spell stuff properly then no one will take you credible with your fiction that you just got from out of your really dirty rear

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Originally Posted by Maligore (Post 60138)
Saban was too cheap to do a final battle to show how the Zeo Powers were lost. It was a new low in cheapness since it was on a movie budget. I don't know why Tommy got his powers back. But they were too cheap to show it or make "Forever Red" at least a two parter.

It wasn’t a question of expenses, it was just decided by other Bosses that they didn’t want a movie to focus on a previous season

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Mutiny (Post 60139)
Disney made Wild Force so they had nothing to do with "Forever Red". It just had the same production team as MMPR-TF in MMPR Productions.

Disney still produced the season so they were still responsible for every thing that went on then including Forever Red yes they had the same production team do work on the show but it was still their property no matter what

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Originally Posted by Massive Ego (Post 60144)
Too bad Disney was too stupid to go this root and at least end what was left of MMPR Productions with a bang before starting with the suck. Instead the real Ninja Storm started the long sling of suck we have had until now. With the first half of RPM in between.

It wasn’t a question of stupidity but rather after Wild Force they were pretty much at the point that it would be cancelled, that they wouldn’t be doing any future shows.

Doug Sloan who was working for Disney at the time was the one who convinced them to resume the property but by moving the production over to New Zealand but by that point the production team had already been let go and it’s unlikely a lot of them would have been willing to move out there anyway


Quote:

Originally Posted by White Tiger Fan (Post 60145)
I do with they used Amit's version of Samurai. It would have been pretty cool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massive Ego (Post 60146)
That would have been a lot better than the slop we got. But they didn't want to listen to the guy they had consulted with them. But then again bringing back Lynn didn't help so who knows.

Would have never happened since it would have required way too much original footage which Saban was too cheap to pay for as a certain person likes to say

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMPR Forever (Post 60154)
I was upset that Tommy wasn't the Green or White Ranger in FR. Those powers were what he is remembered for. All the other powers he had mean nothing.

How would that make sense? Look at the name of the episode. Forever Red it was not called Forever Red minus one but plus a Green

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimandTommy (Post 60158)
That would have been terrible. I'm glad they cut that scene. Too bad they couldn't have had Sutherland's general be Kat.

Knock it off, you are getting on my nerves with your needless Kat attacks.
Kimberly is not the perfect Saint that you think she is.
She would have never volunteered herself to be bait the way that Kat did
Don’t try to kid yourself that she would ever think of that either because she wouldn’t and even if she did which she wouldn’t, there is no possible way that she would go through with it
Come on, use your common sense instead of your black heart.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger Master (Post 60159)
They were all the Rangers Actors voicing generals were actually playing their old characters. They were assimilated by the remnants of the Machine Empire to avenge Mondo. Probably had there memories erased though.

Wrong. Not all of the voice actors were previous Rangers and no the villains are not the Ranger characters
That’s a bogus and completely farfetched statement, probably one of the most ridiculous statements that I have ever heard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerlord (Post 60165)
I don't take anything as canon unless its on screen or confirmed to be in a Series Bible.

Neither do I but for me it has to be said or shown on the show.
I don’t care what some bible says if it didn’t make it to the show then I personally don’t view it as being in continuity

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massive Ego (Post 60168)
Yes, you do. But I have mine as well. And I am one the most credible fan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massive Ego (Post 60171)
I have a lot of confidence and believe I am the number one fan. Its no offense to any of you guys. I just tell it like it is. I have a massive ego and am proud of it.

No you aren’t, Number one fans watch every single episode of every single season. If you are what you have claimed then you can answer these questions.

No cheating. Can’t even google it or anything, has to come from you only. No phone a friend, no message a friend, no lifelines at all

Who are the Rangers in Beast Morphers? First and last names
Which relatives of Rangers and Grid Battleforce employees did we meet?
How many different base Gigadrone models does Scrozzle have at the current time?
Which Gigadrone did the Rangers take to study it?
Which two Gigadrones did the Rangers face when they first combined their zords for the first time?
How many Robotrons have been rebuilt?
What are the names of the alternate Ranger modes?
What are the names of the Beast Bots counting the fourth one, the Ranger one?
Who was the bad egg who blackmailed Zoey?
How many guns does evil Roxy have?

Campbell Cooley voices Scrozzle, who else has he voiced in previous seasons? I would say bonus points if you get all of them

Who does Mark Wright play in Beast Morphers and who did he voice back in Dino Charge?

Kelson Henderson voices Cruise but what other roles has he done? I would say you have to answer with at the least ten answers

What are the names of the six zords?

Massive Ego 05/22/20 12:26 AM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
That was one of my earlier posts that I regret. I tried to act like I was better then I am. I agree it was a stupid statement.

Sailor Kitty 05/22/20 09:52 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
I just want to know why Tommy didn't face Turbo Red in "Fighting Spirit?"

Ranger Eagle 05/22/20 09:53 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarienandSerena (Post 77346)
I just want to know why Tommy didn't face Turbo Red in "Fighting Spirit?"

Its because he was only a Turbo Ranger for a short time and shared the powers with TJ. Also they probably didn't have enough time in the episode.

Piccolo's Legacy 05/22/20 11:54 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PRdude (Post 77347)
I always figured it was because the Turbo powers are the only ones he didn't have all to himself.

The most likely reason.

Zord Commander 05/23/20 11:57 AM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
We found. out years later he had the Master Morph. He probably had it back then too. He just didn't use it in DinoThunder for whatever reason. But he did get the Black Dino Gem pretty early.

Overdrive Omega 05/24/20 02:17 PM

Re: How did Tommy get his Zeo powers back?
 
My real question is how Jason got his powers back?


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