Super Megaforce Legendary Morphs
I have been thinking about this for quite awhile so I wanted to bring this up.
What Legendary Morphs did you want to see? I personally just wanted to see a morph into any Power Rangers good morning warrior that came from Sentai but with the addition of Titanium, Spirit Rangers and any modes they had I especially would have liked seeing all color changes like all White, all Green, all Black, all Pink, all Blue, all Yellow and all Red although I can imagine that an all Pink change might be controversial and very questionable |
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They should have only morphed into the MMPR Rangers.
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They should have skipped on adapting Goseiger because the 20-season split was already in effect and the 20th anniversarry was just around the corner. They should have gotten 1 Ranger from every then-adopted Sentai season to appear in their own tribute episode, following the Gokaiger order, not necessarily with the Veteran Rangers who appeared in Gokaiger:
Magiranger / Mystic Force Dekaranger / Space Patrol Delta Gekiranger / Jungle Fury Gaoranger / Wild Force Shinkenger / Samurai Carranger / Turbo Gingaman / Lost Galaxy Boukenger / Operation Overdrive GoGo V / Lightspeed Rescue Hurricanger / Ninja Storm Abaranger / DinoThunder Ohranger / Zeo Go-Onger / RPM Megaranger / In Space Timeranger / Time Force Kakuranger / Mighty Morphin' Alien They could have adapted the episode where Orion gets the Q-Rex into a MMPR episode with Tommy making a cameo appereance. Additionally, they could have him cameo in the Zeo and DinoThunder tribute episodes where he could return to his mentor role. T.J. and/or Cassie could've done both Turbo and In Space tribute episodes, Damon, Leo & Karone Lost Galaxy, Carter and Dana could have shown up in the adaptation of the GoGo V's tribute episode, Wes could have easily been in the Time Force tribute episode and could have easily reprised his double role of Alex and Wes and any of the WF cast could do the Wild Force tribute. Same with Ninja Storm - they could have just filmed original footage where the SM Rangers transform into the 3 Wind, 2 Thunder and the Green Samurai NS Ranger (in case of being unable to get the 3 Winds onboard), S.P.D. (if they're unable to make Cruger to make a cameo), Mystic Force, Operation Overdrive and R.P.M. The Samurai and Jungle Fury tributes were just fine, so they could have easily worked as they are. They had 2 years to plan the anniversarry season and get as many people on board as possible, exclude the pre-Zuys, Dairanger and Goseiger by skipping scenes where those suits are featured and editing existing/filming original footage where needed to avoid continuity errors. Of course, the Legendary Battle would have to be original footage to exclude unadapted teams as well. Not only all seasons would be acknowledged correctly and treated with respect, but we could also have gotten a full straight Goseiger adaptiation later on. The season list could have looked something like this: Shinkenger / Samurai S01 Shinkenger / (Super) Samurai S02 Gokaiger / Super Megaforce S01 Gokaiger / Super Megaforce S02 Goseiger / PR 2015 S01 Goseiger / PR 2016 S02 Kyoryuger / Dino Charge Kyoryuger / Dino Supercharge (25th season, DiD would still have worked) Ninninger / Ninja Steel S01 Ninninger / (Super) Ninja Steel S02 Go-Busters / Beast Morphers S01 Go-Busters / Beast Morphers S02 Ryusoulger / Dino Fury S01 (30th season) Ryusoulger / Dino Fury S02 EDIT: As for the US-only Ranger appereances: I agree, they should have used the Titanium Ranger suit in a Lightspeed Rescue tribute and the Spirit Rangers in a later episode, not necessarily in the Jungle Fury episode. |
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Yes trying to adapt two Sentais in one was a bad idea. If each block of episodes was 40 it may have been a different story. But each half was 20. You just didn't need to adapt a second sentai. Its not like they couldn't go back to it later. Beast Morphers more then proves this.
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I think they did a great job with Megaforce as it is. Legendary Battle is one of my favorite episodes. I suppose I could say I would like to see even more morphs. But I feel like I would be nitpicking,
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Megaforce had lack of character development, plot development, story development and a lot of story elements skipped over for the sake of burning trough 100 episodes of Sentai footage. I recently attempted watching Tensou Sentai Goseiger and although I had to stop after Gosei Knight's debut because of lack of time (obligations), I can TESTIFY that there's more usable Sentai footage in those 15+ episodes of Goseiger that could provide the show with a lot more plot, story and character development than what was actually used in the actual (Super) Megaforce seasons.
Yes, "Legendary Battle" is one of my favorite GENERIC PR episodes: the fact is that a lot that was featured in it wasn't previousely introduced properly. They try to build upon the emotional and moral connection between the current team and the Veterans, but you don't actually feel that connection. They didn't even explain where did the Ranger Keys come from, why were they created in the first place and how did those who created them even know they're going to be needed? I mean, the Veteran Ranger teams just show up morphed and waLK TOWARDS the Megaforce team like nothing even happened with their powers. The whole 40 episodes of those seasons instead of resolving some open-ended stuff from previous seasons, answering questions on where did the Warstar and the Armada come from, they just end up adding even more unanswered questions. Plus when the Veterans teleport away... the shot of Earth in there just doesn't make any sense as only the Alien Rangers, the Gold Zeo Ranger, Andros, Zhane, the Galaxy Rangers and the RPM Rangers are those who should've teleoprted somehow to their own Galaxies/planets/dimensions, but not everyone else, like the used footage actually shows. |
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Legendary Battle felt like a kid at a candy store wrote it with no knowledge of the craft. It was lazily produced with little thought for what the returning characters actually represented. I would say its one of my least favorite episodes for this very reason. I would have preferred they not adapt Gokaiger at all if they were going to produce the mess that was Super Megaforce.
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I wish they would have done a whole episode where Gia is stuck in Kimberly's Ranger Form...Which leads us to a whole episode about Kimberly.
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Wait?So you are saying they should have uses Goseiger as the anniversary season over Gokaiger?
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Maybe a simple team up with the available MMPR Rangers would have been more doable. They tried to do too much. I know they were at the mercy of the Sentai Footage for the classic transformations as well.
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I would have settled for a proper Samurai team up.
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Beast Morphers has done a much better job making there team connected to the others then Megaforce did.
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I didn't mind the morphs, I just wish Legendary Battle had more of a point.
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Agreed. Legendary Battle should have been a two-part episode featuring the events that led to it with the cast members making cameo appereances. Just switch Goseiger with Shinkenger suits and have the Samurai cast do VA. Use only adapted teams, come up with a great coreography with good debut points for each Veteran Ranger and have them loose their powers at the end. Cut to Ninjor (silent cameo only) inside a space ship/shuttle looking towards the Ranger energies flying away from Earth. Episode 3: Introduce Orion as the leader of his home planet who chooses the new team of Rangers. They travel to Earth because of an intel that the powerful Ranger Keys are scattered all over it and that they are the only way to defeat the Armada's forces, which has made havoc in multiple galaxies all across the universe.
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They could have debuted with that two parter and set up the new team for the rest of the season. Remember Legendary Battle Footage was actually from the first episode of Gokaiger.
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Or they could have the Megaforce Rangers loose their powers, go MMAR path and just use a completely new cast for Super Megaforce. Additionally, they could have had the story be set up so that the Legendary Battle has already happened during the Megaforce Rangers' final battle so they could be creative and show the Warstar aliens working with the Armada. In another words, the Megaforce Rangers' final battle could be a part of it in a way. It would have made up for the lack of 199 Heroes movie exclusive footage.
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I would have done the Legendary Battle in the beginning,have it lead to.the Ranger Keys, and then do another big team up in the end.
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I don’t think it would have been very realistic to get even one of every team since you would need to pay to fly certain ones out which wouldn’t have been worth the cost It would have made more sense if someone with Time Force was there for the episode that Orion gets his zord in considering it comes from their time |
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They could strike a deal wirh Toei to skip Goseiger, do Gokaiger in favor of the big anniversary coming up and then go back to Goseiger. I mean, it was PR's 20th anniversarry.
Or they do the more expensive and complicated root and could film original footage and have the Rangers use their Power Cards to morph into previous teams and just use as much of Gokaiger footage as possible for the ground fights. That could work in their favor very well: they could have norrowed down the episodic appereances of the Veteran Rangers to just the most important ones who would represent the most fan favorite seasons. For this, the selection of Rangers from the Legendary Battle episode could work really well: Tommy > MMPR, Zeo, Turbo, DinoThunder Cassie > Turbo, In Space Leo/Damon/Karone > Lost Galaxy Carter/Dana > Lightspeed Rescue Wes > Time Force Casey > Jungle Fury Jayden/Ji/Mike/Emily > Samurai The only seasons that would't get represented by their cast members would be Wild Force, Ninja Storm, S.P.D., Mystic Force, Operation Overdrive and R.P.M.. That's still LESS then half missing proper tribute episodes with their respective cast members making cameos in them, even if you ignore the fact the MMPR is 3 a seasons long series. The episodes could work something alike: the Warstar aliens send a General to fight the Rangers (by using establishing shots of Goseiger's villains and Gokaiger's generals) but for the Megazord fights, it would be all Goseiger footage so MMPR S02's "Megazord fights split-scenes" situation is avoided. Sure, this would probably get us robbed of the awesome main Gokaiger suits and Zords, but at least we woud have a proper hybrid season with a proper storyline where the 6th Ranger powers are just assigned to one of the main 5 Rangers, depending on who a certain episode is all about. Now, Gokai Silver and some of the Gokaiger stuff would still have to be refilmed to include the Goseiger suits fighting the Gokaiger villains and footsoliders. They could also re-film the Gokaiger Megazord cockpit scenes featuring the Goseiger suits as well since they would eventually have to switch to Gokaiger Megazord stuff in the second half of the series - whihc would have given the Super prefix in the season's official title at least some purpose and sense. |
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I think they should have used Gokaiger footage with your idea.
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Just give the returning a little more character time. I think one of the problems was that the sentai footage was for a big opening battle. As a final battle was lacking and never felt like the stakes were high enough for all these Rangers to come back. But it would have helped if their returns didn't feel so shoehorned in.
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We can thank to Johnatan Tzachor for that. When Samurai came along, it was the start of the season 2 years = 40 episodes splitting. They had more than enough time to prepare themselves for the anniversarry season and that includes talking with Toei to skip Geosiger in favor of Gokaiger, invite cast members on time so they'd be more prepared and even write a much better anniversarry season. Gokaiger had the footage for them already, it was just a matter of using it since the most focus in that Sentai season is on the teams FROM Zyuranger ONWARDS: Ohranger, Carranger, Megaranger, Gingaman, GoGo V, Timeranger, Gaoranger, Hurricanger, Abaranger, Dekarager, Magiranger, Boukenger, Gekiranger, Go-Onger, Shinkenger - all those tribute episodes happened ON THE SHOW ITSELF and NOT in the 199 Heros movie.
I get why not use the footage from the 199 Heroes movie (rights and stuff), but not to use the footage that's basically MADE for your adaptation is completely unacceptable. JT was lazy and the whole "creative team" he worked with. Even Samurai is, despite its flaws - better than the anniversarry season that we ended up getting. |
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The idea PR should basically be a dub of Sentai was insane. I know he did i to make production easier and not based on an obssession with Sentai...But he went way to far.
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I think it was a smart move by Tzachor. Why go out of your way and produce original footage when its easier to closely follow Sentai? Especially when Sentai is so well done. I can't think of how Super Megaforce could have been any better?
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I can think of a million ways it could have been better. Some of which have already been dischssed in this thread.
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