Does the backstory to Samurai ruin the PRU timeline?
 

It doesn't make sense that there was so many Rangers before the Samurais we see. This Ranger team goes back generations. In other similar situations we had Ranger teams powers decsended from worriers from long ago that weren't Rangers. Which leads me to believe that these teams had their powers connected to the grid later.

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Thats what happens in Sentai. Sentai dectates what Power Rangers does. And it controls its continuity in that sense. When PR tries to do things on its own it falls off the tracks most of the time. Which is why I am concerned with Dino Charge. The Ancient Samurais had to be former Rangers.

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I never really thought about it too much. It doesn't bother me. Since there is nothing that says there couldn't be ancient Rangers that would mess up the PRU.

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of course it makes sense even with Sentai dictating a lot of the footage that we see it's still possible for so many of the Samurai Rangers to exist before Jayden, Emily, etc. came into their Samurai powers.

Zordon wasn't a fan of telling people anything unless he absolutely needed to. Every time his team were having issues he told them how to take care of an issue or he gave them a new power when their current powers weren't strong enough so it's entirely possible the Samurai Rangers were around while the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers were active their activities just weren't each other's concern since they had more pressing matters of their own.

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Zordon had a bigger ego than I do.

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yes that is what happened in Sentai but Tzachor didn't need to rip everything from Sentai... and Sentai does not dictate everything Power Rangers does.

Where was the White Ranger with the Zyuranger in Dairanger? Exactly my point.
Where were the 5 Shark Cycles at in Kakuranger? Exactly my point.
Where was Lord Zedd at in Sentai? Exactly my point.
Where was the Command Center/Power Chamber at in Sentai?
Where were the Battlizers in Sentai? Only in Magiranger vs Dekaranger since Toei had borrowed the Power Rangers Sonic Mode Battlizer suit they didn't exist at all in Sentai before then or even after that.
Where were the Mega Battles? Exactly my point.
Where were the Astro Cycles and Jet Jammers at in Sentai?
How about the Green, Pink, Blue and Yellow Lightspeed Cycles?
Where was Titanium Ranger at?
What about the Vector Cycles, TF Eagle and Strata Cycle?
How about the White, Black, Blue, Yellow and Red Savage Cycles? What about the Wild Force Rider?
What about the Wind Rangers' Tsunami Cycles, Hunter's Ninja Glider Cycle and Cam's Dragonforce Vehicle?
What about Jack and Bridge's Patrol Cycles?
What about Trent, Tommy and Cruger's ATVs?
How come we didn't see Sprocket and Gasket together at all in Ohranger? Where was that?
Where was Maligore and Dark Specter? Scorpius? Ransik? Master Org? Lothor? Mesogog? Gruumm?

Also keep in mind that a lot of the stories are different.
Time Force, Wild Force, S.P.D and Mystic Force are the only ones prior to Samurai that can lay claim to the fact that they were the closest to their Sentai counterparts.

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I think he is saying that all those differences were not good and that PR is always better when it follows Sentai. Those last four seasons you mentioned were some of the stronger seasons for following Sentai.

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I find it hard to believe that all those original plots made PR bad. Its a little single to say PR should always follow sentai. You're just as stubborn as the people who say PR should never copy sentai I don't think its as black and white as people like to say it is.

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no he didn't. you are the one with the biggest ego in the entire universe.

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regardless of what he's saying it's a bad approach. Power Rangers is Power Rangers, Sentai is Sentai, Power Rangers should never be Sentai just as much as Sentai should never be Power Rangers.

Time Force was an awesome season but it doesn't change my opinion that it's being lazy when it's nothing more than a Sentai season with very little original content.

Wild Force was a good season with some awesome plots (but a bad actor or 2 or 3) but again it still doesn't change my view point that Power Rangers should not follow what Sentai does.

S.P.D. however was horrible. Broodwing was pretty much the only good point.
Mystic Force wasn't the best and the season was hurt because of its over reliance on focusing on Nick.

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I think it was fine. Why can't there be past Ranger teams? Its very possible since we get new Ranger teams every year. The Samurai Rangers just have a long standing tradition. It seems like they like to do things on their own. So they are probably were not connected to other Rangers until.the RPM team up.

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Samurai's problem that it followed the sentai storyline too much. They didn't deviate enough to do their own thing. The timeline does nothing to mess with the pru timeline.

It could have been much worse timeline wise. At least they made RPM a AU in the team up. Rather then to try and act like RPM took place in the present or to not explain why Scott was there at all.

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The Alien Rangers were presumably active before any Mighty Morphin Ranger was even born. The Gold Ranger powers had been passed down by the Triforian Royal Family. Andros and Zhane were Space Rangers when the Zeo Rangers were active. And Taylor was a Wild Force Ranger when the Time Force Rangers were active. It's not uncommon for there to be ranger teams around during or even before the then current team was active.

One can surmise that when Tommy made his video diary, he wasn't aware of the existences of the Samurai Rangers. Maybe Zordon and Alpha were aware of them but thought they were handling the problem well and didn't feel any need to interfere with their battle. Or there were long gaps between when a team were active and the Nighloks were attacking. Plus the Samurai Rangers seem like a pretty secluded bunch; when they first met Scott, Mia wondered outloud if he was another Samurai Ranger too.

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I just thought having Rangers on Earth centuries before the MMPR era was a bit of a strech. Especially when Wild Force used ancient worriers instead of Rangers. Mystic Force was similar. And yes I am not counting Western Rangers.

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The Alien Rangers were active before Zordon's team that he recruited was born. Cestro stated that Ninjor gave them the Battle Borgs a millennium ago.

It's possible that Zordon was aware of the Samurai Rangers but he was one to not get involved unless it was absolutely necessary and because he felt they had the Nighlok under control it was not necessary.

It's not that big of a stretch and the Wild West Rangers do count because they're part of official continuity so you can't discredit them regardless of whether you might want to or not.

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Yeah but there is nothing that said there couldn't be past Ranger teams. After "Legendary Battle", its even more likely. Samurai does nothing to contradict anything. Just because some teams had origins as ancient worriers. Why does it mean that another can't have Ancient Rangers?

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The battle between the previous Samurai Rangers and the Nightloc happen in 1991, 2 years before Zordon created the Mighty Morphing Power Rangers. :cool:

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Not necessarily. They could have easily made RPM fit into the timeline due to what we saw of Ransik in the flashback of him freeing the Orgs that became the Mut-Orgs.

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But wouldn't RPM take place in the future than and require time travel?

I don't see a problem with having ancient Rangers. It interferes with nothing and it was never said there wasn't other Ranger teams in MMPR.

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yes it would... if it took place in the main series continuity.

I agree that it doesn't interfere with anything in regards to Samurai.

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also why would time travel be an issue? we already have Time Force and S.P.D. that take place in the future.

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Just seems too cluncky for me. Its bad enough, having to come up with reasons why Time Force and SPD would travel back in time.

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it's easy with Time Force
1. they're destined to go back in time
or
2. it's an incident that triggers too much of a change in the time stream and they have to get involve so that it doesn't prevent too many changes.

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Not really because nothing says that there were pre MMPR Rangers on Earth. just because there are a few teams that had predecessors that weren't Rangers themselves, doesn't mean that there can't be some of them that weren't Rangers.

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It just confirms that there were past Ranger teams. Super Megaforce makes this even more apparent.

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I find it weird that there were old Rangers ?. Zordon says the Wild West Rangers were the only humans to become Power Rangers until the MMPR team.