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OmniMystechRanger 10/26/17 05:36 PM

Theory on evil rangers powers
 
Theory on evil rangers powers is that they have their own morphinggrid an as example the all versions of mirrorrangers and psychorangers and shadowrangers and darkrangers and mutantrangers and cyborgrangers powers are all connected, so evil rangers can draw on them powers, what ya think?

Zabitan 10/26/17 05:36 PM

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Eh I always thought of the Morphing Grid as like the Force in Star Wars so maybe all the evil rangers are just tapping into the "dark side" of the existing Morphing Grid.

OmniMystechRanger 10/26/17 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zabitan (Post 72200)
Eh I always thought of the Morphing Grid as like the Force in Star Wars so maybe all the evil rangers are just tapping into the "dark side" of the existing Morphing Grid.

That what I thought but when I saw psychogreen in the comics, it made thinkk could there be a seperate grid for evil rangers, and is it as strong at the good morphinggrid!

johnboy3434 10/26/17 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zabitan (Post 72200)
Eh I always thought of the Morphing Grid as like the Force in Star Wars so maybe all the evil rangers are just tapping into the "dark side" of the existing Morphing Grid.

Except in the entire series up to this point, only one group fueled by this supposed "Dark Side" has proven capable of fighting on the level of a normal Ranger team: the Psychos. The others have gone down like so many bitches.

That said, in season two of MMPR, Zedd specifies that the Morphing Grid is maintained by the struggle between Zordon and himself. Given later developments, one can only assume that this was a more immediately relevant and/or egotistical way of stating that it was maintained by the struggle between good and evil. Whether this means that the Grid itself has a moral affiliation with both good and evil, or that it is an amoral entity that is designed to cease existing if one side or the other ever wins, is somewhat ambiguous.

Titanium321 10/26/17 05:36 PM

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Most evil rangers you listed are just copy cat powers. Mirrored versions made by a specific monster or device by the bad guys. They don't actually morph, they're just in the shape of a "bad" version of the good guy. Even the "Dark Rangers" are just a variation of the good rangers made by a special artifact and a spell, not something they morph into on their own.

The Psycho Rangers are specifically monsters turned into ranger suits, they don't morph or draw on an external power source.

The only actual morphing rangers of evil alignment were A Squad, and they had their own morphers that were used for both good and bad, tapping into the same power source both times. Meaning it'd be all the same grid regardless.

maritroniuity 10/26/17 05:36 PM

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To me, the powers are not good or evil by themselves (with a couple of exceptions), so I do not believe that there is a good side of the grid or a bad side. What is good or bad are the users of the powers.

Rhonan 10/26/17 05:36 PM

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I always assumed the Morphing Grid was neutral. It would be kind of cool to see what would happen if an evil person could access to it.

Green Goblin 10/26/17 05:36 PM

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Stop George it’s not funny anymore

WhiteMystechRanger 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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The Psychos did not get their powers from the grid.

They were created using Dark Spectre's life force and were a ploy by Astronema to weaken him.

OmniMystechRanger 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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GreenGoblin if ya dont like my posts killfileme, that true in the show darkspectre was the source of power for the psychos in the show, but we dont know what powers them in comic, it could be the morphinggrid is neutral an can be used either way, how can ya be sure that there isnt a good or neutral or bad side to the grid, there could be seperate grids for each! We dont know if mirror/dark/cyborg/shadow/psycho rangers can morph, we just gotta decude on that for ourselves, well have to see what done then! Reason why I think there is evil morphinggrid is cause of how many evil ranges there is!

Allio 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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So if this is a theory, what are some evidence from the show that supports this?

Or is this more considered head canon? I honestly can't tell the difference between the two. Or does it not matter and constitutes toward the same thing?

OmniMystechRanger 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 72209)
So if this is a theory, what are some evidence from the show that supports this?

Or is this more considered head canon? I honestly can't tell the difference between the two. Or does it not matter and constitutes toward the same thing?

It constitutes both, an unfornately no evidence of this yet exists!

-LunarWolf- 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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[QUOTE=johnboy3434;5489193]Except in the entire series up to this point, only one group fueled by this supposed "Dark Side" has proven capable of fighting on the level of a normal Ranger team: the Psychos. The others have gone down like so many bitches./QUOTE]

Not quite true, the shadow rangers' existence from Wild Force was tied to the monster that created them, and only from his destruction did they disappear. They had the advantage for the most part.

Another thing to note (although this crosses the PR/SS line) is that in Gaoranger vs Hurricanger, the villains were able to steal gao's morphers and transform no problem, even though those powers were entrusted by the gao animals.

Allio 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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Now would be neat say had Enter been in Power Rangers, he could have, as a virus, infected the morphing grid to obtained Viral Buster then use "its morphin time" as to mock the morphing grid for being so easy to hack.

AdrenalineRush 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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The Cyborg Rangers were originally good before Strikning threw a lightning attack that caused them to malfunction and go on a rampage, which eventually led to the Lightspeed Rangers returning and to take their replacements down before defeating Strikning with the Lightspeed Megazord Saber.

Ankh Primo 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AdrenalineRush (Post 72213)
The Cyborg Rangers were originally good before Strikning threw a lightning attack that caused them to malfunction and go on a rampage, which eventually led to the Lightspeed Rangers returning and to take their replacements down before defeating Strikning with the Lightspeed Megazord Saber.

They also didn't morph, thus rendering use of the Morphin Grid moot.

Titanium321 10/27/17 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OmniMystechRanger (Post 72208)
We dont know if mirror/dark/cyborg/shadow/psycho rangers can morph, we just gotta decude on that for ourselves, well have to see what done then! Reason why I think there is evil morphinggrid is cause of how many evil ranges there is!

We do know. Mirror/Dark/Shadow and any kind of copycat monster rangers are just that, copies. They don't summon a morphed form, they're made as is. That is the way it works in the story.

Psycho Rangers also don't morph, we saw how they have their powers and forms and where it all comes from.

Cyborg Rangers were robots, the whole point was they didn't have to morph or be civilians at all.

AdrenalineRush 10/28/17 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ankh Primo (Post 72214)
They also didn't morph, thus rendering use of the Morphin Grid moot.

Plus I don't like Omni's theory that they have their own Morphing Grid either.

MattEmily 01/07/18 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by johnboy3434 (Post 72202)
That said, in season two of MMPR, Zedd specifies that the Morphing Grid is maintained by the struggle between Zordon and himself. Given later developments, one can only assume that this was a more immediately relevant and/or egotistical way of stating that it was maintained by the struggle between good and evil. Whether this means that the Grid itself has a moral affiliation with both good and evil, or that it is an amoral entity that is designed to cease existing if one side or the other ever wins, is somewhat ambiguous.

I prefer going with the theory that the grid powers both sides and it's more of a neutral balance or entity if you will and I do think it would collapse if either side is truly ever gone.

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Originally Posted by Titanium321 (Post 72203)
Most evil rangers you listed are just copy cat powers. Mirrored versions made by a specific monster or device by the bad guys. They don't actually morph, they're just in the shape of a "bad" version of the good guy. Even the "Dark Rangers" are just a variation of the good rangers made by a special artifact and a spell, not something they morph into on their own.

The Psycho Rangers are specifically monsters turned into ranger suits, they don't morph or draw on an external power source.

The only actual morphing rangers of evil alignment were A Squad, and they had their own morphers that were used for both good and bad, tapping into the same power source both times. Meaning it'd be all the same grid regardless.

not all evil Rangers are just copies. The Badges of Darkness acted as Morphers for Putties to morph into Rangers but I do agree that it'd be the same grid regardless of whether one is evil or not. Tommy would've been linked to the same grid regardless of whether he was fighting for Rita or Zordon.

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Originally Posted by maritroniuity (Post 72204)
To me, the powers are not good or evil by themselves (with a couple of exceptions), so I do not believe that there is a good side of the grid or a bad side. What is good or bad are the users of the powers.

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Originally Posted by Rhonan (Post 72205)
I always assumed the Morphing Grid was neutral. It would be kind of cool to see what would happen if an evil person could access to it.

I agree the powers are not good or evil by themselves it's the owners of them who cause them to be good or bad well except for the White Dino Gem since that was a corrupted gem even Elsa herself called it evil.
I do think the grid is neutral in the grand scheme of things since I don't believe it picks sides.

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Originally Posted by Green Goblin (Post 72206)
Stop George it’s not funny anymore

you're not either so I wouldn't complain.

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Originally Posted by WhiteMystechRanger (Post 72207)
The Psychos did not get their powers from the grid.

They were created using Dark Spectre's life force and were a ploy by Astronema to weaken him.

we don't know if they came from the grid or not what we do know however is that their powers came from Dark Specter and as far as we know of his powers could come from the grid.

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 72209)
So if this is a theory, what are some evidence from the show that supports this?

Or is this more considered head canon? I honestly can't tell the difference between the two. Or does it not matter and constitutes toward the same thing?

it's just a theory and really the only supported evidence we have is in the Primator ep when Lord Zedd mentions that the grid's balance is maintained between the constant struggle between him and Zordon now as we know by now he wasn't telling the whole truth since he's purified and Zordon is dead and the grid is still active so I think he was more saying that the grid is maintained due to the constant struggle between good and evil.

[QUOTE=-LunarWolf-;72211]
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Originally Posted by johnboy3434 (Post 5489193)
Except in the entire series up to this point, only one group fueled by this supposed "Dark Side" has proven capable of fighting on the level of a normal Ranger team: the Psychos. The others have gone down like so many bitches./QUOTE]

Not quite true, the shadow rangers' existence from Wild Force was tied to the monster that created them, and only from his destruction did they disappear. They had the advantage for the most part.

Another thing to note (although this crosses the PR/SS line) is that in Gaoranger vs Hurricanger, the villains were able to steal gao's morphers and transform no problem, even though those powers were entrusted by the gao animals.

Lunar is right about Onikage's Ninjas and while I don't quite recall Gaoranger vs Hurricanger it's irrelevant since it didn't make it to Power Rangers.

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Originally Posted by AdrenalineRush (Post 72213)
The Cyborg Rangers were originally good before Strikning threw a lightning attack that caused them to malfunction and go on a rampage, which eventually led to the Lightspeed Rangers returning and to take their replacements down before defeating Strikning with the Lightspeed Megazord Saber.

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Originally Posted by Ankh Primo (Post 72214)
They also didn't morph, thus rendering use of the Morphin Grid moot.

whether they morph or not doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by Titanium321 (Post 72215)
We do know. Mirror/Dark/Shadow and any kind of copycat monster rangers are just that, copies. They don't summon a morphed form, they're made as is. That is the way it works in the story.

Psycho Rangers also don't morph, we saw how they have their powers and forms and where it all comes from.

Cyborg Rangers were robots, the whole point was they didn't have to morph or be civilians at all.

the Mutant Rangers lead by Crayfish weren't copies so no you'd be wrong. Yes the Cyborg Rangers were just robots so they didn't have to morph but how can we say they didn't access the grid? The weapons would've been part of the grid same with the zords and as far as we know of any being who uses magical energies could access the grid.

PRangerX 01/07/18 05:37 PM

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I think there is one morphing grid that evil can access. Usually to make monsters like Zedd. Sometimes they use it for evil Rangers. Some of these evil Rangers are also false Rangers.

MMPR Forever 01/07/18 05:40 PM

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Only the MMPR Rangers were connected to the morphing grid. Zedd and Rkta cou!d just use it tk create monsters. The Mirror and Mutant Rangers weren't real. Only Green Ranger was real.

MattEmily 01/07/18 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 72219)
I think there is one morphing grid that evil can access. Usually to make monsters like Zedd. Sometimes they use it for evil Rangers. Some of these evil Rangers are also false Rangers.

I agree.

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Originally Posted by MMPR Forever (Post 72220)
Only the MMPR Rangers were connected to the morphing grid. Zedd and Rkta cou!d just use it tk create monsters. The Mirror and Mutant Rangers weren't real. Only Green Ranger was real.

not entirely true since both good and evil White Rangers were tied to it in Dino Thunder it was a tie-back to Zordon's warning to Kimberly in the Wild West that too much pink energy could destroy her it wasn't the pink energy itself that would destroy her but it'd be the fact that the same Pink Coin would be activated at the same time which would cause an overload in the grid's balancing scale.

I do think Rita and Zedd use the grid for all of their magic regardless of whether it's for attacks or it's to create monsters so yes I also think Finster's Monstermatic is tied to the grid and as for the Mirror and Mutant Rangers you are only half-right the mutant ones lead by Twin Man weren't real since they were just disguises but the ones lead by Crayfish were in fact real.

RailRescue25 01/08/18 10:13 AM

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Evil Rangers can definitely connect to the Grid. I see no reason why this isn't possible. White Ranger Clone is a good example.

DinoThunderKira 01/08/18 01:17 PM

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They don't have two separate Morphing Grids. There is only one! No one says evil can't access it. Zedd confirmed that he uses it.


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