Can we expect more ToQger elements in Ninja Steel?
 

You are probably looking at that title and thinking; ”No.” and perhaps "We never got Go-Busters elements in Dino Charge so nah" But hear me out, I’ve got a theory on what I think might happen in Ninja Steel. Lots of pictures incoming!

So we all know the deal; Saban buys a show and adapts it into a season of Power Rangers. When Saban buys a show it’s a package deal; Toei gives them the footage, all of the suits (ranger and monster), as well as props. I posted something like this the other day, but today I finally decided to analyze this deeper and more thoroughly. Before I get into Ninja Steel, i’ll go through Power Rangers’ past.

Let’s look at Mighty Morphin season 1. They had Zyuranger stuff.

Mighty Morphin season 2, they introduced Dairanger footage and monsters, but didn't use any of the main team’s suits aside from Kibaranger. Season 2 also used props from Dairanger
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20100705213914
http://rangerarchive.com/Dai/DaiRang...%20Bazooka.jpg
As we all know, the Aura Changer was not used in Mighty Morphin, but years later in Lost Galaxy as the morpher for the Magna Defender


Mighty Morphin season 3, Kakuranger footage was introduced as well as monsters. Kaku suits were used but not for the main team. The Shark Machines were used, known as the Shark Cycles.
http://www.morphinlegacy.com/wp-cont...ark-Cycles.jpg

Now kitbashing is another topic. Reusing suits is nothing new to Power Rangers. As I mentioned before, once Saban gets access to the Sentai, they get all of the stuff that comes with it. But that doesn't outright mean they have to use the suits as intended. Some suits were used, some were torn apart and frankensteined with fellow suits. Furio originated from Megaranger’s final villain that was not used for In Space, but Lost Galaxy instead as it’s own character.

One character from Carranger in particular was a parody of Mazinger Z, and wasn't used in the show most likely due to copyrights. However, the suit appeared in Turbo but repainted and kitbashed with another monster suit.
https://imgur.com/4Sd3m9X
https://i.gyazo.com/ffd1f195af82797a...c3ea352013.png

If Saban has access to this unused monster suit, I believe that’s good enough proof that they pretty much get EVERYTHING from the Sentai show they buy from.

Here we have Boribaru. This guy was from Timeranger vs GoGoFive and was not used at all in Time Force. However, his body was used in SPD for a minor character.
http://rangerarchive.com/Specials/Ti...rboxer%202.jpg
http://i1.wp.com/www.morphinlegacy.c...size=404%2C303
Pierrebori was used in Time for Lightspeed, the Time Force and Lightspeed Rescue team up. Said episode did not use any footage from Sentai.
http://rangerarchive.com/Reunion/Lig...,%20Ransik.jpg

And finally, we have our good friend Snide. Neo Geildon was used in Kyoryuger vs Go-Busters as a villain. I believe that rather than buying the footage of the movie (because at this point, it seems very unlikely that they have), they just bought Neo Geildon’s suit and props. Unless, the suit came along with all the Kyoryuger stuff. Chip saw potential in Neo Geildon, so they decided to use him. His axe was repurposed into a sword, and his shield is gone, possibly to remove ties to Zeltrax?

Now what does this mean for ToQger? Since they are using the Baron Nero suit, I believe they can use any suit from ToQger. But the questions are; Will they use more, and how would they fit the story? Baron Nero was probably picked because of his design. He just SCREAMS gameshow host. But will they use more? Here’s my speculation;

Unless Ninja Steel has a mentor character like Ninninger, I highly doubt that the Gold ranger will be the same. As Chip mentioned before, if he sees a plot point from Sentai and it works with the show, he will use it. One could argue that Heckyl is inspired by Enter from Go-Busters (although it could be a strange string of coincidences, but seeing how Chip is a fan of the show it could be likely)

I think that Zaram is the perfect fit for the Gold ranger. You’ve got Galvanax sending down contestants to Earth to challenge the Rangers and steal the Ninja Crystals. When we look at ToQger, Zaram was a Shadow Monster sent to Earth to collect darkness from humans. After realizing the beauty of the world through a rainbow, he left the Shadow Line and helped the ToQgers. Chip can pretty much reuse that storyline for the Gold ranger. In my eyes, that’s one of the twists that Chip loves to do. Using something from ToQger, as well as introducing a new story to Power Rangers (having a monster transform into a Ranger).

Then there’s Zed. Back when we first got the synopsis of Ninja Steel, I had faint hope that “Zircon” was going to be Zed. Of course, he ended up being Gengetsu Kibaoni but the usage of Baron Nero opens the possibility that this can happen. I don't think they will use Galvanax in the second half of Ninja Steel. To spice things up, they can use Zed as the new villain. The Rangers can kill of Galvanax, but who will be the new champion of the Galaxy Warriors? A new character can take his spot, much like how Sledge and Heckyl swapped places.

Of course, this Ninja Steel talk is all speculation and I could be totally off the mark. It’s also late, so sorry if I repeat several phrases over and over. What do you guys think?

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Kinda got lost reading that (long day at work & all), but yeah anything's possible (w/in Power Ranger budget anyways). Personally, I'd be content with a short team-up: The 'Rail Strike' Rangers are hunting down a long standing enemy of theirs who just so happens to meet up with the Ninja Steel baddies. The 2 teams decide to work together, take out the villain (whom 'Kibaoni' also decided to betray out of assholeness), and 'Rail Strike' go on their merry way.

Not much to it, I admit, but there may not be enough time (and even less money) to do a lot.

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I am quite surprised they used the Neo Geildon suit at all. Unlike its former EP, Chip knows that fans are going to recognize the suit and its potential ties to a former character. The suit is cool looking though.

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Just gives us Z's monster form. That's all I ask.

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The game show concept means that having all the opponents be monsters actually makes little sense. Some of them should be humanoid friendly aliens - and the Toqgers would be ideal for this. Working against the Ninja Steel team under duress, it would work like Zedd's Dark Rangers, but this time without the horrible bargain basement costumes! Would be a nice way to shake things up in season 2, I think.

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They could replace all the main villians in Ninninger with the Toqger ones honestly. Even Kyuemon to some degree. He didn't become more active until the second half, so having him as a late addition to the game or even a new threat to the ninja steel that's not Galvanax could work.

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I keep seeing people mentioning Zaram being used as Gold, and imo that would be a pretty awesome way to go about using more ToQger stuff. His general design fits with the cowboy suit, and of course he'll have a convenient human form. I always liked the idea of a monster going good and joining the rangers.

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This guy gets it.

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I want the ToQgers to be a bunch of alien kids Watching the game show, and they are so obsessed with Ninja Steel, they and their dad become their own team of rangers (dad is Rokugou). even if it's only for one episode.

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Using Zaram for Gold would be awesome. I really want a monster as a ranger. Done right it could be fun. The ToQgers appearing in Ninja Steel is on my wish list for sure.

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Too good to not use.
https://i.gyazo.com/58b9f69febc2372a...4018222faa.png

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Since they resemble Nero, they might use the Toqger footsoldiers as a second string.

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The Kuros could be set up as Nero's personal guards while Z's monster form could be used as a second season main villain (probably as Galaxy Warriors' new champion or as part of the aliens overseeing the game show which is also where the rest of the Shadow Line could come in).

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I would never say we should "expect" anything from Ninja Steel. I think it'd better to say "wish for hopefully if you so desire, but don't get mad when you don't get your dreams made into reality."

That being said, would I be shocked if we had more ToQger elements in Ninja Steel? No, not at all, but I'm not holding my breath. It's hard enough for the writers to write 44 episodes of a television series in such a short amount of time, go through multiple drafts then taken to shooting schedules. I don't think anyone really has the chance to think "let's use this one storyline from this one Sentai that I didn't even know we weren't going to be adapting until months before production."

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Well the thing about using Nero here it's signifying that they're not going to be going back to Toqger for another series so it opens up a lot of possibilities and even potentially the scraps they could get from Go-Busters. Chip is obviously taking designs into the decision of what to include. There's no reason Neo Geildon or even Nero had to be used. It's all about expect the unexpected.

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Zed -- maybe even named Zircon -- being used as a second season villain seems to a very good possibility, being the new champion to replace Galvanax to keep up with the two-main villain style.

I doubt they will use the ToQger suits though, but them being intergalactic heroes that is part of Galaxy Warriors could be doable I guess. Not sure if they could incorporate the Galaxy Line as it is movie only so maybe they'll just keep the Rainbow Line if they did, although maybe they just won't adapt it as they are just going to probably promote the Ninninger-adapted toys.

With the other generals, I feel other than Nero, Noire and Morc are the ones that seemingly you can adapt. Schwarz may be a bit similar to Nazi's so they may not adapt him -- that, and he looks militaristic rather than bourgeois which IMO those 3's motif have to fit with the rich intergalactic producers motif. Not sure if they could Glitter in this one, but what if she's the daughter of Nero and Noire, and will become the "Curio" of the season for comic relief, haha.

Of course it would REALLY be a missed opportunity not to use Zaram as the Gold Ranger. An Galaxy Warrior that came to do his business, turned to the Earth's side with the "Power of Friendship", and now is living with the rangers disguised as a human, but still packs a punch as a ranger. We could also have interesting shenanigans of him being seen as an alien and having to try and get his disguise working again haha. That being said if they can use Schwarz they they may use I guess the story and have Zircon .

P.S. I have another idea -- what if Morc is Nero's mother-in-law, and is the owner of the network the franchise is in, I mean that would have some interesting husband, mother-in-law comedy that you usually get haha.

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I really hope they use Noire. She's too good not to use. As I said, she'd be a perfect candidate for the actual owner of the games. (The trailer says Galvanax is the reigning champion). So what if Noire is the one who runs the games?



Definitely fits the look of someone who would own a gameshow. Plus, it's been far too long since we had a female final villain.

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Certainly a fascinating topic. Although I'm waiting for the Rangers' reaction. Maybe at the end of Ninja Steel, they come across a hidden camera on one of the monsters, only to realise what's really going on.

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I've got it.How to adapt Z's sparkle plotline.

Z is the new creative producer and struggling badly to keep the ratings. Consequently, everybody else gets what is consistently evading him: a bright idea.

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I would mind if Super Ninja Steel went the MMPR seasons two and three route and kept the suits, but introduced new Zords and weapons to mix it up.

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Maybe the pink rangers train zord has Toqger-like origins. It's a pity they skipped the season as that would be a good explanation.

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I don't get it...

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we had two sentai seasons in a row where pink's original zord was a pink train

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I'm still not following Snow Wolf's train (pun intended) of thought. ToQGer like origins would be IMAGINATION! which... makes no sense in Power Rangers.

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In all fairness, while they didn't do it for Dino Super Charge, they did it for Super Mega Force.

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Because they didn't even bother to buy the Go-Busters stuff. It's that simple. Did you read the first post?

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Besides the villain costumes, the only thing I'd love to see are the actual zords and evil train zords get used. Like they jump from a running man game to a Death Race and use the trains for an episode and never see them again. Maybe utilize one of the fights without the main robo so it doesn't clash colors.

I'd also love to see a few of the villain suits get turned into some kind of intergalactic mafia trying to fix the game. The grunts for Toqger look like perfect space mafia henchmen.

Other than that there's no real reason to bring anything else in. The villain suits aren't going to waste and that's all that matters.

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I wonder if they can get the Darkliner Megazord suits as the elite foot soldiers or Vivizord-like for Megazord battles. I am not sure how they could edit it with Ninninger footage, because I am not sure if the main Megazord suit is available too unless they go full CGI on those battles.

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I think it'd be pretty cool if, like I said before, Galvanax had the Toqger powers in his possession and when the Ninja Steel beat the MOTW, they took those powers and tried them out. Good thing about the Toqger suits is they can switch up whose male and who's female.

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With the ranger suits usually newly made for the series from what I know, I wonder if they could create multiple Shadow ToQger suits so that maybe they will be evil rangers at first but turns into "regular ToQgers" later on.

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Don't forget about Master Orgs origins (See DaiRanger)

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I really liked the monsters of Toqger and the political in fighting and I think that could really work with their games idea

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Agreed. Hell, you could do something similar to Grimlord's army with the Generals.

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Or they could do the powerrangersmegaforce/supermegaforce idea an give the rangers the train powers plus ninninger power! An GoBusters ones if they want!

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Having more ToQger elements in Ninja Steel seem to be a good idea. It might led to a ToQger type Power Rangers movie from Saban or Liongate. :D

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true they could and while it'd be cool if they did I wouldn't be expecting it but I think you're a bit misinformed since while it is mostly a package deal they still don't get every suit they never had Greenzilla in Dino Charge and generally they don't send them mecha suits but if it's something they want they probably would but the suits are generally rentals that they have to pay for and if there are ones they want to keep they have to pay for them.

true about the suit but I doubt he was aware of its ties to a Dino Thunder character remember he didn't work on the show so he wouldn't know anything about Zeltrax or any of those villains.

who?

they wouldn't have done that.

I do like that suit so I hope we see it.

I don't see the resemblance and I personally don't see it happening since it would require too much original footage.

I completely agree with you granted we don't know how they got those suits. Were they just in the shipments and Chip happened to see those suits and decided to use them? or was he looking at the source material, saw the suits and asked his bosses to get the suits for him from Toei?

no they didn't Megaforce just had Goseiger suits and Gokaiger just had Goseiger and Gokaiger suits.

exactly Go-Busters obviously wasn't bought but that doesn't mean their suits couldn't have been mixed in with Goseiger suit shipments.

I would imagine they could get any suit they want if it's in good enough condition to be shipped over but I really don't see them requesting mecha suits.

what about him?

yea it does seem like a good idea but a movie wouldn't be happening.

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It would have cool if the adapted it was like MMPR where only the suits were the same. But I doubt they produced it like that.

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I wouldn't expect them to go that far. We know if they did by now

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I wouldn't expect anything major. Probably a few small things here and there.