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Cestro 05/30/17 07:36 PM

Each Ranger with a Megazord
 
I suppose this belongs more in the merchandising thread because, ultimately, many people will bring this back to the toy aspect of the discussion. However, I want to talk about it from a narrative standpoint.

So the evolution of zords/mech in Sentai/Rangers has been pretty much the following:

One Megazord for all -> individual zords with multiple pilots -> multiple zords with single pilots -> multiple zords with single pilots and auxiliary zords with no pilots.

We've come to a point where, in addition to all rangers having a single zord, there are dozens of other zords with no pilots that either belong to the team as a whole or the red ranger. In fact, several seasons have the red ranger with two or more personal zords. Even 6th rangers get their own megazord now with several other zords.

The question I have is: when will it be that all rangers get their own Megazords?

I think the idea of auxiliary zords were a fine concept during Wild Force and Dino Thunder. In both cases each ranger basically had a primary zord and then a secondary zord to call upon or control. With a few exceptions (i.e. Falcon Wild Zord and Mezodon Rover). However, since then, things have gotten out of hand. I hate to say that there are too many zords, but yeah there are too many auxiliary zords. I'd say the problem crept up around Shinkenger/Samurai and became a major problem with Goseiger/Mega Force since then. Now I like the idea in Kyuranger that every ranger gets one zord, although that may change quickly given the number of zords were are getting and the idea that we are unlikely to have 20+ rangers (we'll see). But there is still the other elephant in the room: the red ranger gets all the big, cool, and/or single Megazords.

In Kyuranger, all the rangers up until violet had a single zord that was considerably smaller than the Red Rangers, and no formation could be made with out Red's. In ToQger, ToQ1 gets his primary Ressha, the control over the Diesel Oh and the Hyper Ressha. Zyuohger, red gets the Eagle, Gorilla, and While zords along with 3 different forms, yet the other rangers only get to call on the aux zords. There are more examples, but I think you get my point.

So why haven't we reached the logical evolution; giving each ranger their own Megazord?

Why not have a season where each ranger starts off with their own Megazord? Either a single combination or five individual zords that form into a Megazord. Why give the red rangers all the Megazords? How about give them each their own Megazord to control? Do you see where I'm going with this? You can give each ranger 1-5 zords without out making them seem inferior to the red or 6th rangers.

It's just an idea, but should't we have gotten here by now rather that still be stuck in a time where only the "cool" rangers are given extra zords. Wasn't there a time where all the rangers were to be treated equal as opposed to being inferior to the red ranger?

AdrenalineRush 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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I doubt it.

PrimoMystechRanger 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cestro (Post 66322)
The question I have is: when will it be that all rangers get their own Megazords?

Never, because Red Ranger is the leader and leaders stand out.

Now, the happy medium of course is to give all Rangers warrior Zords, which I will advocate for every season forever.

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I hate to say that there are too many zords, but yeah there are too many auxiliary zords.
Get. Out.

Cestro 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimoMystechRangger (Post 66324)
Never, because Red Ranger is the leader and leaders stand out.

Isn't that the problem? The Power Rangers are a TEAM. Why is it that the red ranger gets disproportionate attention over the other rangers? Should't they all be equal?

Further, I would say that the Red Ranger "standing out" is artificial. The circular logic is that the red ranger gets more toys made and more stories about him because he is the most popular. However, he is the most popular only because they make more toys of the red ranger and the show makes more story lines to prop up the character so that you will buy the toys. The red ranger popularity, I believe, is more artificial than it is of genuine like of the characters.

If the creators would focus on other rangers, like giving them their own Megazords, you can break the cycle.

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Originally Posted by PrimoMystechRangger (Post 66324)
Get. Out.

I love zords just as much as the next person, but too may of them are just there and serve no purpose. Remember Megaforce?

Can we at least agree that there are too many repaints? I mean a bear, jaguar, and panda all made from the same mold, but with different colors?

Chiron723 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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All I want is that whatever zord setup they do in the future, that there is a final setup where all zords are used. I loved Go-Busters and Wild Force (haven't seen Gao yet), but it bothered me that there were always some zords without a Megazord formation at the end of the series (coincidentally they both just needed a pair of legs). Now look at Kyuranger/Dino Charge for example; when all is said and done there are no spare Zords. All arms used, all bodies accounted for, All 11 Zords combine into 5 Megazords. We need more of that.

PrimoMystechRanger 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cestro (Post 66325)
Isn't that the problem? The Power Rangers are a TEAM. Why is it that the red ranger gets disproportionate attention over the other rangers? Should't they all be equal?

But it's not a problem for the wrtiers and designers, because it's selling. When a kid dreams, they dream of being the star. And the star is either Red or sixth, we've all always known this.

But yeah, repaints suck. That said, budgets are a necessary evil, and the Bear Zords were awesome.

Dark storm 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiron723 (Post 66326)
All I want is that whatever zord setup they do in the future, that there is a final setup where all zords are used. I loved Go-Busters and Wild Force (haven't seen Gao yet), but it bothered me that there were always some zords without a Megazord formation at the end of the series (coincidentally they both just needed a pair of legs). Now look at Kyuranger/Dino Charge for example; when all is said and done there are no spare Zords. All arms used, all bodies accounted for, All 11 Zords combine into 5 Megazords. We need more of that.

Seriously, considering Wild Force already had more than 20 zords, most of them being arms, you'd think they could have sprung for at least one more zord forming megazord legs. Even if they just remolded bison or rhino into something else again. But the problem with the rhino was you could only use the eagle or the puck. That was stupid. They should have come up with another zord for that too.

Digifiend 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimMystechRanger (Post 66324)
Now, the happy medium of course is to give all Rangers warrior Zords, which I will advocate for every season forever.

Of course, we had that three years in a row, once. MMPR's Shogun, Super Zeo, and Turbo's Rescue.

Cestro 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Digifiend (Post 66329)
Of course, we had that three years in a row, once. MMPR's Shogun, Super Zeo, and Turbo's Rescue.

I'm honestly surprised that we haven't had any since Mystic Force.

PrimoMystechRanger 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Digifiend (Post 66329)
Of course, we had that three years in a row, once. MMPR's Shogun, Super Zeo, and Turbo's Rescue.

And we had animals for four years in that same row. Later three years in a row three different times.

There's more than enough room to return to a concept not fully explored in over ten years.

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Originally Posted by Cestro (Post 66330)
I'm honestly surprised that we haven't had any since Mystic Force.

Thus my advocating.

Kaigan 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimoMystechRanger (Post 66324)
Get. Out.

No, he's right. Well, at least in the sense that they are handled horridly nowadays. Now that I've spent the better part of a month watching nothing but older Sentai, I really miss the days where the show was a toy commercial sure, but more often than not the new toys serviced the plot and not the other way around. When something new showed up, it felt special. Now it's just new zord after new zord after new zord and then they get used once or twice and totally forgotten, and they're often the entire focus of the episode. It's all so arbitrary and meaningless and it's lost any sort of special meaning.

God, I long for the days of Carranger when it was two main mechs and maybe an auxiliary or two. And no fucking collectibles.

kibapower 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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I'd love if they intended the auxilery mecha to be one offs from the start. Every mecha's the Exotic Brothers headders, a random use of powers

Kaigan 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kibapower (Post 66333)
I'd love if they intended the auxilery mecha to be one offs from the start. Every mecha's the Exotic Brothers headders, a random use of powers

Hey, if it gets us another ostrich zord.

Titanium321 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cestro (Post 66322)
So why haven't we reached the logical evolution; giving each ranger their own Megazord?

At some point, I suspect we will. It seems like an inevitable step with mecha heavy series. I think the only thing holding it back right now is the size of casts. A small team would be better to do it with and they've been going in the opposite direction with that lately. Not to mention at the heart of it is Toei and Bandai's general unwillingness to market to girls and give girl rangers their due with the toys on the same level as boys. They'll make girl toys, but just to complete sets, never as the main focus, never with special attention. Especially with what sells with the kids in Japan versus the American kids.

It really depends on the current trends the show latches onto. One mecha with changeable parts has been the go to for a while now. It's easier to sell auxiliary zords than extra megazords. If they're cheap remold parts to attach to existing toys too, all the better.


I would love to see everyone end up in their own megazord. Jungle Fury got close but not quite right. Often the problem is just getting a body zord to fill space. Wild Force had so many arms floating around but only three bodies and two legs to use which really held it back.

I think a neat way to approach it would be a megazord configuration for each ranger. Where their zord becomes the body and the others arrange around for the new mode. Sort of how ninninger/Ninja Steel does the first Megazord combo with red and blue changing places making different formations or even better the way Time Force has three different ways to combine their main zords.

A smaller three man team could probably get away with that easier. A Primary Warrior mode for the standard humanoid fighting mecha, a secondary beast mode combo and a third flight form would make the most sense. A Red, Blue, and Yellow form essentially. It doesn't seem that unlikely, but probably will need to wait for the mech toys to pick up popularity over role play items.

Alitain 05/30/17 07:36 PM

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I think each ranger having their own megazord would be excessive even for Sentai. I mean yeah, there're sometimes several auxiliary zords but you'd need at minimum two more zords per ranger for a three-zord megazord, let alone a five-zord combination. So that'd be ten auxiliary zords just for that alone. Not to mention you'd need to take the time to introduce them which likely would mean one episode per ranger with them being rewarded or finding them.

And if you had five megazords running around what would that do to the scales of battles? I mean, already most of the time the megazord forms and they might exchange a sword clash or two, or take a couple hits from the monster then unleash their final move and we're done. But if you have five megazords all getting involved that would be a lot of to do. And then, because it's inevitable with Sentai, they'd have to start combining the individual megazords into super megazords. Whether they would combine all five together, or just two or three at a time no clue. But still, those kind of shoved together megazords just end up looking...meh in my opinion. And generally they're basically just a fancy pile of zords that does nothing but unleash their super move anyways.

I think what might be fun, is having the rangers with warrior zords like Magiranger and such seasons. But then let them each gain a single auxiliary zord that acts as an accessory to their zord. Much like how they do with megazords now, becoming arms/legs/etc and giving a new weapon or attack. But on a smaller scale for the warrior zords, just not a full on megazord.

Sevenlima 05/31/17 07:57 PM

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Individual Megazords would be too expensive, i think.

Dark storm 05/31/17 07:57 PM

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But it would be worth it if they could all combine into the biggest megazord ever!

Sevenlima 05/31/17 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark storm (Post 66338)
But it would be worth it if they could all combine into the biggest megazord ever!

I can really imagine how would look like.

WhiteMystechRanger 05/31/17 07:57 PM

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I would like to see that.

Wild Force Style would be the best way to do it. That way you have a standard 3 or 5 mech robo for the team, but the Rangers find zords that match their colour and animal/vehicle theme and soon you have 3 or 5 megazords with matching colours/motifs that can mix and match with each other.

Perhaps a bit much, but I prefer that over single use Aux mecha.

PrimoMystechRanger 05/31/17 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark storm (Post 66338)
But it would be worth it if they could all combine into the biggest megazord ever!

https://i825.photobucket.com/albums/...ctMegazord.jpg

PopCultureLover06 05/31/17 08:03 PM

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I remember I started this fan-fiction thread a couple of years ago, I wondered what a Megazord or Giant Mecha from the first 2 Sentai series Goranger and JAKQ would have looked like, since the first 2 Sentai series didn't have a Megazord/Giant Mecha, it's still an interesting thought

Almighty_CRJ 05/31/17 08:03 PM

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Two things I'd like to see:
A Shogunzord with Ninja storm like capsules to add things to the individual shogunzords

A five team with a red having body and arms, a pair with arms and body and another pair with arms and body. Creates a team of 3 megazords and once more for the sixth.

Toku Ranger 06/01/17 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimoMystechRanger (Post 66324)
Now, the happy medium of course is to give all Rangers warrior Zords, which I will advocate for every season forever.

Ditto! I absolutely agree!

maritroniuity 06/01/17 08:04 PM

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Set it up like Boukenger's fleet but later on in the season the Rangers discover that their individual mechs can combine.

MattEmily 10/17/17 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cestro (Post 66322)
So the evolution of zords/mech in Sentai/Rangers has been pretty much the following:

One Megazord for all -> individual zords with multiple pilots -> multiple zords with single pilots -> multiple zords with single pilots and auxiliary zords with no pilots.

We've come to a point where, in addition to all rangers having a single zord, there are dozens of other zords with no pilots that either belong to the team as a whole or the red ranger. In fact, several seasons have the red ranger with two or more personal zords. Even 6th rangers get their own megazord now with several other zords.

The question I have is: when will it be that all rangers get their own Megazords?

It'd be nice BUT I don't see it happening.

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I think the idea of auxiliary zords were a fine concept during Wild Force and Dino Thunder. In both cases each ranger basically had a primary zord and then a secondary zord to call upon or control. With a few exceptions (i.e. Falcon Wild Zord and Mezodon Rover). However, since then, things have gotten out of hand. I hate to say that there are too many zords, but yeah there are too many auxiliary zords. I'd say the problem crept up around Shinkenger/Samurai and became a major problem with Goseiger/Mega Force since then. Now I like the idea in Kyuranger that every ranger gets one zord, although that may change quickly given the number of zords were are getting and the idea that we are unlikely to have 20+ rangers (we'll see). But there is still the other elephant in the room: the red ranger gets all the big, cool, and/or single Megazords.
well Wild Force was fine but Dino Thunder wasn't since generally it was Tommy or Hayley who was sending the zords.

The problem isn't that there's too many auxiliary zords the problem is that they can't equally divide them.

also the Red Ranger isn't the only one who gets the big, cool and/or Megazords/humanoid zords since there's the MMPR Tigerzord, the Defender Torozord, the Q-Rex, the Predazord, Dino Stegazord, Delta Command Megazord, Centaurus Wolf Megazord, Rhino Steelzord Warrior Mode, Titano Megazord

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So why haven't we reached the logical evolution; giving each ranger their own Megazord?

Why not have a season where each ranger starts off with their own Megazord? Either a single combination or five individual zords that form into a Megazord. Why give the red rangers all the Megazords? How about give them each their own Megazord to control? Do you see where I'm going with this? You can give each ranger 1-5 zords without out making them seem inferior to the red or 6th rangers.

It's just an idea, but should't we have gotten here by now rather that still be stuck in a time where only the "cool" rangers are given extra zords. Wasn't there a time where all the rangers were to be treated equal as opposed to being inferior to the red ranger?
because it would cost money to create that many suits granted it'd be nice if we had that again since we had the Shogunzords and Battle Borgs in MMPR3, the Super Zeozords and Turbo's Rescuezords in High Stance Mode but after that we didn't see it again until Mystic Force.


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