Why weren't Deker and Dayu redeemed

[MattEmily]

Originally Posted by Knights of Ren

There is no way that they could use the Sentai Storyline without some major changes. some of the aspects of the story are still there. But its a lot darkee in Japan. PR actually kept ot a very tragic story and actually made them more sympathic.

he/she is right in fact here's the info on their Sentai counterparts I'll edit it their PR names if they have a PR counterpart.

Usukawa Dayu is the right hand of Doukoku (Master Xandred) and the only one he is kind to, provided she knows her place as his obedient and unquestioning servant. In life, she was Usuyuki, a woman who obsessed over Shinza, a man who never loved her. However, when scorned that he loved another woman instead of her, Usuyuki incinerated him and those at an engagement party in a suicidal crime of passion. But once witnessing that Shinza would still love another, Usuyuki's emotions corrupted her soul and turn her into Dayu, bonding Shinza's soul into a shamisen that she carries with her, creating eerie and unsettling songs that become a means to soothe Doukoku's rage.
However, she has trouble getting along with the Ayakashi because of her life as a human, which she makes attempts to reclaim. One failed attempt results with her being saved by Juuzo, developing feelings for the Gedou as she begins to defy Doukoku's orders as well. Though she claimed her feelings for Shinza had long died, after becoming a rogue, Dayu refuses to give him up as it would end her existence and she doesn't want Shiza's soul to be reunited with his love. Doukoku angry that she did not killed Juzo as he ordered her to, he burnt her shamisen, making Shinza moan. She told Juzo her feelings for Shinza had disappeared but Juzo (Deker) did not believe this true.

Soon after Akumaro's demise, Dayu returns to the Rokumon Junk to assist in Doukoku's reawakening. Dayu deliberately has Shinken Pink destroy her shamisen. Which discards her of her past life, but it also revives Doukoku. She later uses the last of her power to restore Doukoku's body with only her kimono remaining, which Doukoku later throws into the Sanzu River. In battle, Dayu wields a shortsword hidden in her shamisen, with the headstock as its hilt. Her name is translated as thin-skinned courtesan and she is the basis for the futakuchi-onna of Japanese myth.

Juzo Fuwa is a mysterious Gedoushu, regarded by the others as a lone wolf, yet he seems to know more than Doukoku about the Sanzu River's true potential. He first appears in Episode 7. Juzo was previously a human master swordsman in life, eventually becoming disenchanted with the ways of bushido and thriving more on the pleasure of killing his opponents in battle. When he contracts a fatal illness, Juzo enters the Sanzu River to cheat death, completely discarding the goodness in his heart to become a Gedou, a half-Gedoushu that can freely exist in both realms and keep his human form. As a result, Juzo is condemned with an insatiable urge to find an ideal opponent, a fellow samurai who strays from the teachings of bushido, to clash blades with, saying his katana, Uramasa hungers for it.

He finds this opponent in Takeru Shiba, after witnessing his swordfighting. He had asked Doukoku permission to fight Shinken Red and Doukoku blindly approved without realizing he was the one to seal him. This obsession with fighting Shinken Red leads Doukoku to seal Juuzo's Gedoushu powers, leaving him for dead in the Sanzu River. Although he barely survives with Dayu's aid, he cured Takeru of Shitari's poisoning. He makes Takeru promise to fight, but when Gold comes to save him, Juzo agrees to fight the next time. After a long battle in which he manages to severely wound Shinken Red, Juzo is defeated and falls off the cliff into the ocean below in Episode 26. Dayu seemed to have feelings for Juzo but after he made her realized she hadn't given up on her feelings for Shinza, she was peaved at him.

Later fed up waiting for the Uramasa to be repaired, Juzo confronts Akumaro and learns his weapon's origins and that he is a pawn in his plan. by fooling Akumaro (Serrator) into giving him back his tool and cutting him down, Juzo reveals he knew the truth behind Uramasa from the first time he held it, thus preventing Akumaro from fulfilling his plan. Later, after the real Shiba House head is revealed, Juzo gets Takeru to duel him once again before finally falling to him in battle with a delayed hit after Uramasa finally stops its master and denies him his only desire. Uramasa remains in the physical world after Juzo fades away until the souls that formed it are finally able to depart into the afterlife.

[White Tiger Fan]

I like Amit's idea to adapt Juzo as Jayden's friend/rival, who is secretly descended from Xandred.

[MattEmily]

Originally Posted by White Tiger Fan

I like Amit's idea to adapt Juzo as Jayden's friend/rival, who is secretly descended from Xandred.

please that would've broke Saban Brands if anything that was never "an original pitch" and is just a bogus claim he threw out once he saw the hate the show was getting. Both of you need to learn the concept of a budget.

[Samurai Mentor]

Isn't the Deker Counterpart Jayden's brother in Amit's version?

[Samurai Gigazord]

Yes but the names are all different.

[PRangerX]

Originally Posted by MattEmily

please that would've broke Saban Brands if anything that was never "an original pitch" and is just a bogus claim he threw out once he saw the hate the show was getting. Both of you need to learn the concept of a budget.

I actually think it could have worked. Because it didn't stray too far from the Sentai Footage.His other pitches seem like they would have been a lot harder to adapt.

[Superstatler]

Here is Amit's treatment for those who haven't seen it.

http://amitbhaumik.tumblr.com/post/5...murai-proposal

[Green With Envy]

Interesting idea. But I liked the way they handled Dayu and Deker in reality. However, I like his overall storyline better. If it could have been adapted.

[Massive Ego]

Its a better storyline than Samurai that wouldn't suck. But I don't know if it was anymlre adaptable than a fan fic.

[Hexagon Ranger]

Amit's ideas would have been a lot better. I don't like how the brother would have turned good. I think it would have been a cop out. If you are going to do the evil brother storyline, go all the way with it.